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Title: The sonic attacks
Post by: gabi200 on Friday 29 September 2017, 17:20:26
E istoria cea mai bizara din ultima vreme. Cbc a scris acum doua saptamani de asta, ce credeti, sunt rusii sau sunt rusii?


http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/29/politics/us-cuba-sonic-attacks-pulls-out-diplomats/index.html
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: libra on Friday 29 September 2017, 22:16:36

ce credeti, sunt rusii sau sunt rusii?

nah, nici unii, nici altii. am eu asa o banuiala ca sunt rusii. tot aia de la alegeri.
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: corolla on Friday 29 September 2017, 22:52:04
Numa ariciu sonic cred ca e divina.
Btw, e vorba aci de infrasunete sau ultrasunete?
Latra cainii la havana sau doar sta la umbra ambasadei?
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: crsv on Friday 29 September 2017, 23:01:04
The statement from the Cuban foreign ministry said it had been informed on 17 February of the incidents and launched an “exhaustive, high-priority, urgent investigation at the behest of the highest level of the Cuban government”.
However, putting together something powerful enough to affect hearing would be more challenging as it would require a large amplifier, may require a focused beam, and would need to be placed in the close vicinity of the target. High frequency sound does not travel well through barriers such as walls, curtains, or even human skin.

“If you want to put a lot of power into it so you could produce a beam that could go through windows, it starts to look more like a suitcase,” said Leighton. “In order to generate hearing loss at 50 metres away, you’d be looking at a car-sized device.”
Another ethical issue, specific to ultrasound weapons, is that they are difficult to target and tend to affect women and to a far greater degree children, more severely than middle-aged men.
US media reported (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/some-u-s-diplomats-in-cuba-diagnosed-with-serious-health-conditions-medical-records-show/) this week that the medical records of some of the diplomats showed they had been diagnosed with mild traumatic brain injury. However, scientists were sceptical about the potential for an ultrasonic device to be capable of causing permanent brain damage.
“That’s a little harder for me to believe,” said Cleveland. “The sound would have to enter the brain tissue itself, but if you’ve ever had an ultrasound scan you’ll know they put gel on. If there’s even a tiny bit of air between the sound and your body it doesn’t get through.”
One possibility is that this diagnosis is a result of to the range of symptoms experienced, which might include migraines, tinnitus, loss of balance and problems concentrating. However, these effects would normally be temporary.
Leighton, who has studied the safety of ultrasound and measures to avoid its potential adverse effects on humans, said he would like to see more “prosaic possibilities” such as drugs or poison ruled out before being persuaded of the sonic weapon theory.



daca in atatea luni nu au descoperit nimica inseamna ca se trage de la sonic sex  :laugh:
decat sa pierdeti timpul cu thriller-e sf vizionati hooten and the lady , mai ales daca va place umorul britanic  :evil:
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: gabi200 on Saturday 30 September 2017, 17:34:57
crsv nu-nteleg in ce scop ai postat textul, si mai ales care ii faza cu thriller-ul sf. oricine isi pierde timpul cu ce are chef, tu esti la curent ca exista canadieni care lucrau la ambasada si au ramas aproape surzi?
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: crsv on Saturday 30 September 2017, 18:18:56
crsv nu-nteleg in ce scop ai postat textul, si mai ales care ii faza cu thriller-ul sf. oricine isi pierde timpul cu ce are chef, tu esti la curent ca exista canadieni care lucrau la ambasada si au ramas aproape surzi?

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scopul e ca tehnic nu pare posibil decat daca au descoperit vreo noua tehnologie
auzul i-l poti pierde din o multitudine de cauze iar cand vine vorba de sunete frecventele joase duc la pierderea auzului nu ultrasunetele
chestia asta daca e adevarata a inceput prin ianuarie -februarie cand s-au zbirlit la cubani dupa care nimic , a iesit acum in presa dupa care iar nimic
mai bine incearca sa-ti explici fenomenul si daca e vreo explicatie logica pt ca pt mine stiintific nu sta in picioare deci e sf sau stire fabricata
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: grupalu on Tuesday 03 October 2017, 11:51:38
E istoria cea mai bizara din ultima vreme. Cbc a scris acum doua saptamani de asta, ce credeti, sunt rusii sau sunt rusii?

Eu cred ca sunt copiii ambasadorilor, ai US si ai Canadei, care sunt probabil colegi la aceiasi scoala si se duc la aceleasi petreceri si fac aceleasi dracii.

 :evil: Au facut rost cumva de dispozitive sonice si s-au jucat de-a atacul prin cladirile respective. De ce ? Asa fac copiii de bashtani.

Acum diplomatii incearca sa musamalizeze cumva istoria  :laugh: numai ca se duce in spirala la mama naibii !

Rusii tocmai l-au pus pe Trump presedinte - nu-s atat de prosti incat sa anuleze cu trei cacaturi care tiuie tare o asemenea victorie istorica impotriva Vestului.
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: Ronin on Tuesday 03 October 2017, 13:59:24
US a expulzat 15 diplomati Cubanezi, pana la intreruperea relatiilor diplomatice mai este doar un pas. Mana lunga a lui Putin isi face jocul iarasi...
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: grupalu on Tuesday 03 October 2017, 14:16:33
Mana lunga a lui Putin isi face jocul iarasi...

Daca relatiile cubano-americane se inrautatesc, Cuba cade inapoi in ograda americana. De ce le-ar da Putin Cuba inapoi americanilor ?

Ronine, eu spun sa-l cauti pe Putin in Spania daca tot ai chef de anchete la ora asta.

Aaaa! ca europenii tac cu desavarsire relativ la amestecul rus in Catalonia ? phai europenii nu sunt inca in stare sa-i ia tare pe rusi de urechi, lipsiti fiind de traditionalul aliat american.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/2/catalonia-independence-vote-likely-influenced-by-r/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/2/catalonia-independence-vote-likely-influenced-by-r/)

In Cuba au fost copiii ambasadorilor, este ca si cum ar fi nepotii lui Gabi care strecoara ardei iute in borcanele cu dulceata.
Intelegi, sau sa-ti fac un desen ?

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Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: Mircea Constantinescu on Tuesday 03 October 2017, 15:02:33
US a expulzat 15 diplomati Cubanezi, pana la intreruperea relatiilor diplomatice mai este doar un pas. Mana lunga a lui Putin isi face jocul iarasi...
Mana handicapata a lui Trump.
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: Ronin on Tuesday 03 October 2017, 16:26:46
Mana handicapata a lui Trump.
Trump este vinovat de toate, stim, next question!
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: Mircea Constantinescu on Tuesday 03 October 2017, 17:21:19
Trump este vinovat de toate, stim, next question!
Pai ca doar nu Putin a expulzat diplomatii.
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: grupalu on Tuesday 03 October 2017, 20:17:25
Trump este vinovat de toate, stim, next question!

Fareed Zakaria, un ziarist de la "fake news" prezisese ca Trump o sa piarda alegerile. Cum aceasta nu s-a intamplat, Zakaria si-a facut constincios lectiile, a analizat victoria lui Trump si a ajuns la os cu analiza lui : realitatea socio-economica americana.

Zakaria asadar ne vorbeste (vai, si suna atat de cunoscut) despre o "America cu doua viteze", eh, nu s-a exprimat chiar asa, dar recunoastem acelasi fenomen pe care il intalnim si in Romania.

Patru factori de diviziune enumera ziaristul, "cei 4 C"

- Capitalism. Avem, avem si in Romania, scindarea economica intre marile orase si restul tarii.
- Cultura. Yep, este si in Romania. Noul orasean roman, supus culturii corporatiste intr-atat incat a iesit in strada impotriva unui obicei romanesc vechi de milenii !!! Bai, am plans si am baut doua luni la rand de bucurie, la Marea Unire din Februarie si vezi bine, pentru majoritate nu a fost decat un fel de parts.
- Class. Yep, la fel este si in Romania cu elitele, intelectualii ghedesisti si fenomenul "noi muncim, nu gandim".
- Comunicare. Aici analogia US-Romania nu mai tine. Media romaneasca este unitara si unanima intru ocarare 24/7.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/31/opinions/why-trump-won-zakaria/index.html

Trump a mizat pe "left-behind people", care in Romania sunt mult mai multi, sunt 3/4 pe putin... In US sunt doar 1/3 dar fenomenul este acelasi.

Zicea un intervievat american: "Nu mai recunosc tara in care am crescut". Orasele si oamenii s-au schimbat foarte rapid in ultimele decenii. Opinez eu, daca aceleasi schimbari s-ar fi intamplat in 100 de ani in loc de 50, azi nu am fi avut Trump. Trump are o mare indrituire sa fie acolo si sa faca ce il taie capul.

hehe un cititor atent al randurilor de mai sus ar putea observa ca as sustine  - prin analogie - pesedismul ! nope, nu este acelasi lucru. US sufera de prea mult avans, Romania de prea multa inapoiere.

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Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: gabi200 on Wednesday 04 October 2017, 08:29:31
bine-ai revenit grupalule
mai degraba copiii rusi ai unor ambasadori
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: Ronin on Wednesday 04 October 2017, 11:57:30
Pai ca doar nu Putin a expulzat diplomatii.
Si ce vrei sa faca cand are atat de multi diplomati care au fost atacati, sa zica sar'mana, sa mearga la Raul si sa-l ia de mustata?
Putin si-a trimis KGB-istii sa bage zazanie, Cubanezii nu fac nimic ca deh, vechiul breten. Reactia administratiei Trump este automata atat timp cat Cubanezii nu fac nimic de 10 luni.
Dragoste cu sila nu se face, Cuba are nevoie de America, nu invers. Putin stie ca Venezuela o sa cada, este o chestiune de timp, americanii sunt prezenti acolo, influenta vine prin Columbia, Cuba era un teritoriu virgin pt. americani, deci mult mai usor pt. mazetele lui Putin sa actioneze.
Suntem in Cold War, sa nu uitam lucrul asta.
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: gabi200 on Saturday 14 October 2017, 07:47:41
CBC are un nou articol despre asta
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/cuba-sound-attacks-recording-1.4352118 (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/cuba-sound-attacks-recording-1.4352118)


It sounds sort of like a mass of crickets. But not quite.
A high-pitched whine, but from what?
It seems to undulate, even writhe. Listen closely: Some hear multiple, distinct tones (https://apnews.com/88bb914f8b284088bce48e54f6736d84?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP) colliding in a nails-on-the-chalkboard effect.
The Associated Press has obtained a recording of what some U.S. Embassy workers heard in Havana, part of the series of unnerving incidents later deemed to be deliberate attacks.
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: gabi200 on Monday 16 April 2018, 17:35:13
update de 10 minute, the saga continues.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cuba-diplomats-embassy-1.4621992
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: Agno on Tuesday 17 April 2018, 00:56:50
update de 10 minute, the saga continues.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cuba-diplomats-embassy-1.4621992

Pai logic numai rusii ar avea capabilitatea si motivul. Si e politica lor externa sa bata gardul sa starneasca cainii.
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: Ronin on Tuesday 17 April 2018, 11:29:47
Cuba doar ce a schimbat de la Raul la Diaz, un apparatchik de 57 de ani, pare un dur.

(https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_15/2397746/180413-miguel-diaz-canel-mn-1045_2a60334fbc865e6171960a2488e5c317.fit-360w.jpg)
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: gabi200 on Wednesday 06 February 2019, 19:59:54
the plot thickens, nimeni nu stie cine e autorul. acum, si in China

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/diplomats-sue-ottawa-cuba-embassy-sickness-1.5008794
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: libra on Thursday 07 February 2019, 00:30:48
CBC inca n-a aflat, dar Rusia e (si in cazul asta) de vina, toata lumea stie.
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: Ronin on Thursday 07 February 2019, 17:10:49
Daca era si Justina breten cu hamericanii poate era loc in avion si de amaratii aia de canadieni sa vina acasa cum au facut-o colegii de la sud imediat, dar deh...
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: gabi200 on Wednesday 24 February 2021, 17:36:51
S-o aflat de ce: targeted microwave waves.
CIA o facut o comisie sa afle ce deja cred ca stiu.
De ce nu ii bine sa lucrezi in ambasade.


The (creepy) end.
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: libra on Wednesday 24 February 2021, 18:31:33
Adica si-or incalzit aia mancarea in microunde in acelasi timp? Cu usile deschise spre ambasade?
Aha, un fel de DDOS facut cu microwave ovens...., got it.
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: gabi200 on Wednesday 24 February 2021, 20:30:20
poti sa faci un free pdf download la studiul asta
https://www.nap.edu/catalog/25889/an-assessment-of-illness-in-us-government-employees-and-their-families-at-overseas-embassies (https://www.nap.edu/catalog/25889/an-assessment-of-illness-in-us-government-employees-and-their-families-at-overseas-embassies)
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: gabi200 on Wednesday 24 February 2021, 20:34:34
mersi n-am stiut de DDOS attacks, citesc acuma
Title: Re: The sonic attacks
Post by: gabi200 on Friday 30 April 2021, 16:00:16
my, my, my. what do we have here. new events. the Havana syndrome hit Washington.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/29/politics/us-investigating-mysterious-directed-energy-attack-white-house/index.html