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« Reply #6800 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 12:38:43 »
Cred ca ne scapa ceva, la cei din afara sistemului. Cunosc asistenta medicala care tot asa se plange de mama focului ca pe  sectiile de chirurgie colegele ei stau si joaca carti in timp ce ea isi da sufletul.
Cu toate astea, e mai tot timpul acasa.


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« Reply #6801 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 12:48:13 »
Pe chirurgie nu prea se sta, din contra.
Acum guvernul a virat sume considerabile catre anumite clinici private dotate cu aparatura si personal medical pentru a mai scadea din listele lungi de asteptare pt chirurgii.


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« Reply #6802 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 12:51:46 »
Oare de ce?
Proasta gestiune facuta de quebecosi, ca se baga intre ei in posturi cheie, nu dupa competente.
De asta tot sistemul sanitar e varza si va fi din ce in ce mai varza.

pai e mai simplu sa iei salariul stand degeaba in centrele covid unde nu se-ntampla nimic in timp ce unde-i de munca raman aia fraieri, nu?

mi se pare mai normal cum fac americanii, au "vaccinators" nu cadre medicale specializate pt vaccinuri.

in spitale trebuiesc operate echipamente de urmarire a starii pacientului, instalate perfuzii, etc, chestii mai delicate, in timp ce pt vaccinare trebuie doar sa faci o injectie in brat care-i cam frectie ca nivel de calificare. Dar acum majoritatea cadrelor medicale specializate sunt afectate pt vaccinari.
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« Reply #6803 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 12:53:48 »
  sectiile de chirurgie colegele ei stau si joaca carti

explicatia,

At least 353,913 surgeries, procedures and specialist consultations were postponed across Canada due to COVID-19 in the first few months of the pandemic,

si asta e doar in primele luni de pandemie..daramite intr-un an:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/nearly-354k-surgeries-procedures-consultations-postponed-due-to-covid-19-report-says-1.5334065
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« Reply #6804 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 12:58:20 »
Acu sa nu crapam firul in patru, nu ma leg de cifra de 550.
Azi anunta ca sunt  la usi 755 si 516 pe respirator


https://covid-19.ontario.ca/fr/data/hospitalisations

Poate mint, poate nu, la datele astea avem acces. Cum s-a observat de luni de zile si in tari diferite, din aia pe respirator scapa jumate, iar acum cu variantele creste nr deceselor cu  50%.
Alta chestie neclara, chiar si in provincia qc, e ca numarul de paturi era real, doar ca nu mai pot sa-i puna decat unul in camera.

Revenind, or sa moara 300 din cei de azi, raspanditi in toata provincia ontario si o sa zicem ca sunt cifre normale, nu e cazul sa ne alarmam. In Danemarca au terminat cu AZ dupa ce au avut un singur deces, o bagatela. La ce cifre se situeaza normalitatea?


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« Reply #6805 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 13:00:56 »
Ce bs, nu poti sa faci o postare normala cu telefonul.

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« Reply #6806 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 13:01:12 »
pai e mai simplu sa iei salariul stand degeaba in centrele covid unde nu se-ntampla nimic in timp ce unde-i de munca raman aia fraieri, nu?

mi se pare mai normal cum fac americanii, au "vaccinators" nu cadre medicale specializate pt vaccinuri.

in spitale trebuiesc operate echipamente de urmarire a starii pacientului, instalate perfuzii, etc, chestii mai delicate, in timp ce pt vaccinare trebuie doar sa faci o injectie in brat care-i cam frectie ca nivel de calificare. Dar acum majoritatea cadrelor medicale specializate sunt afectate pt vaccinari.
Aici le spune injecteurs, dar toti sunt calificati pt a face vaccinul, cu studii in domeniul medical.
Nu stiu legea americanilor vaccinatori, dar m-as indoi ca vaccineaza cineva fara pregatire medicala, cum se sugera pe aici.

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« Reply #6807 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 13:05:18 »
Mai ales ca se induce ideea ca toate probl cu AZ vin de la erori de vaccinare cand acul nimereste un vas de sange si vaccinul intra in fluxul sanguin in loc de muschi.


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« Reply #6808 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 13:24:47 »
Nu stiu legea americanilor vaccinatori, dar m-as indoi ca vaccineaza cineva fara pregatire medicala, cum se sugera pe aici.

pai toti cei care administreaza vaccinuri au pregatire medicala dar depinde la ce nivel, una-i sa faci o intramusculara si alta e sa faci urmarire la un bolnav proaspat operat de cancer. De ce ai avea nevoie de o asistenta cu experienta sa frece pisoiu' cu covidu in loc sa le lasi la locul lor sa se ocupe de pacienti operati? Ca nu se mai fac operatii la boli grave tocmai ca nu au capacitate post-operatorie, personalul fiind realocat

in final pt unii medici e boierie mai ales pt chirurgi care incaseaza sute de mii pe an (negociati cu guvernu' prin FMSQ, un fel de sindicat de-al lor) si acum lucreaza/opereaza cam 30% din ce aveau de lucru inainte de pandemie, ca doar n-o sa-i vezi p-astia niciodata facand injectii cu vacinuri
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« Reply #6809 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 13:29:56 »
Mai ales ca se induce ideea ca toate probl cu AZ vin de la erori de vaccinare cand acul nimereste un vas de sange si vaccinul intra in fluxul sanguin in loc de muschi.

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2020/12/04/quebec-fera-appel-a-30-corps-de-metier-pour-vacciner-la-population-1

Parmi eux se trouvent notamment des étudiants en médecine, en techniques ambulancières, en pharmacie, en pratique sage-femme, en inhalothérapie et ceux qui deviendront des infirmières auxiliaires.
Québec considère que les professionnels et étudiants pourront être prêts à administrer les vaccins après une courte formation.
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« Reply #6810 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 13:33:34 »
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« Reply #6811 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 16:13:51 »
You obey, u OK! Muje la libtarzi!

Churchill understood the choice perfectly: “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.”!


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« Reply #6812 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 16:15:25 »
pai toti cei care administreaza vaccinuri au pregatire medicala dar depinde la ce nivel, una-i sa faci o intramusculara si alta e sa faci urmarire la un bolnav proaspat operat de cancer. De ce ai avea nevoie de o asistenta cu experienta sa frece pisoiu' cu covidu in loc sa le lasi la locul lor sa se ocupe de pacienti operati? Ca nu se mai fac operatii la boli grave tocmai ca nu au capacitate post-operatorie, personalul fiind realocat

in final pt unii medici e boierie mai ales pt chirurgi care incaseaza sute de mii pe an (negociati cu guvernu' prin FMSQ, un fel de sindicat de-al lor) si acum lucreaza/opereaza cam 30% din ce aveau de lucru inainte de pandemie, ca doar n-o sa-i vezi p-astia niciodata facand injectii cu vacinuri
Ajungem la ce-am spus: gestiune proasta.
Nu pt toti medicii e boierie, cunosc un neurochirurg ce opereaza non stop, au avut o perioada mai moarta, dar s-a terminat, e chiar mai greu, ca au de recuperat.

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« Reply #6813 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 16:22:18 »
A hospital system servicing York Region says six people were mistakenly injected with saline instead of a COVID-19 vaccine.

sa verifice si politicienii zic  :laugh:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7770007/6-people-injected-saline-instead-of-covid-vaccine/?utm_source=GlobalMontreal&utm_medium=Facebook
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« Reply #6814 on: Monday 19 April 2021, 17:38:07 »
Fuhrer Ford:
random stop checks

Canada über alles!!!

“Moving forward, police will have the authority to require any individual who is not in a place of residence to, first, provide their purpose for not being at home, and provide their home address.”

https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/many-ontario-police-services-refuse-to-enforce-ford-governments-new-random-stop-laws
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You obey, u OK! Muje la libtarzi!

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« Reply #6817 on: Tuesday 20 April 2021, 08:29:13 »
Fuhrer Ford:
random stop checks

Canada über alles!!!

“Moving forward, police will have the authority to require any individual who is not in a place of residence to, first, provide their purpose for not being at home, and provide their home address.”

https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/many-ontario-police-services-refuse-to-enforce-ford-governments-new-random-stop-laws




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« Reply #6818 on: Tuesday 20 April 2021, 08:50:40 »
cum s-ar aplica "engage" ala din cei 4E frumos prezentati?
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« Reply #6819 on: Tuesday 20 April 2021, 08:58:58 »
cum s-ar aplica "engage" ala din cei 4E frumos prezentati?

Adica sta de vorba cu tine si iti explica unde ai gresit.
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