Topic: PC - probleme cu RAM

[daris]

Am un desktop Compaq -  specs si placa de baza - specs
...si cunostinte de baza despre calculatoare.

Citeva saptamini in urma nu a mai vrut sa se booteze decit dupa mai multe cicluri ON/OFF.
Nu mai spun cite ore am petrecut sa vad care e problema, in final se pare ca memoria este de vina (chiar daca Memtest nu mi-a dat nici o eroare).

Deci problema RAM-ului este urmatoarea: stickurile merg bine separat, in cele doua sloturi, dar nu merg impreuna. Stickurile sint cele originale venite cu calculatorul.

Inainte de a apare problema, nu am instalat nici un hardware nou, nu am umblat la firmware sau altceva. S-a intimplat pur si simplu.

Cautarea pe Google: se pare ca cine a mai avut aceeasi problema a umblat la voltajul si alte caracteristici ale RAM in BIOS.

Acum partea interesanta: BIOS-ul meu nu-mi arata nicaieri posibilitatea de a intra in caracteristicile ram-ului, m-am uitat de n ori la fiecare pagina, am incercat tot ce era accesibil - adica scrise albastru (nici cele in gri la care nu am acces nu specifica nimic).

Intrebari: poate sa-mi spuna cineva cum pot vedea voltajul, viteza ...etc si cum le pot schimba daca nu sint in regula, in afara Bios-ului. E posibil daca anulez passwordul CMOSului sa-mi arate biosul si altceva decit ce vad acum? Nu ca as sti macar la ce le trebuie password sau ce face acesta, dar parea logic sa incerc. In schimb nu cunosc consecintele actiunii si nu vreau a stric bunatate de calculator.

Calculatorul este foarte incet acum fara o memorie. Orice sugestie este binevenita.

Multumesc

[nicuprietenos]

stickurile merg bine separat, in cele doua sloturi, dar nu merg impreuna.

adica ai pus primul banc, pe rand in cele doua sloturi  si a mers, apoi ai facut aceeasi operatie cu cel de-al doilea banc ? daca da, atunci poti sa schimbi placa de baza.
ai mai putea, daca ai memorii de 800MHz, sa le cobori la 667, poate ai noroc.

[daris]

adica ai pus primul banc, pe rand in cele doua sloturi  si a mers, apoi ai facut aceeasi operatie cu cel de-al doilea banc ?

da, asta am facut, dar impreuna nu merg
 

ai mai putea, daca ai memorii de 800MHz, sa le cobori la 667, poate ai noroc.

nu stiu unde sa ma uit citi MHz au. Nu stiu nici sa le cobor, nu gasesc in Bios optiunea de a schimba ceva la RAM
 
 

[cristav]

si eu zica ca ti s-a dus placa de baza.
am patit-o si eu tot cu o ragalie de-a hp-ului, de mai cumpar de la ei ceva.
vezi ce proc. ai si cumpara una noua de pe http://www.newegg.ca/

[daris]

am mai inaintat putin. Am rulat SiSift Sandra.

Nu stiu daca am inteles bine:

placa de baza, la "Logical/Chipset Memory Banks" imi spune 373MHz (acelasi lucru mi-a dat si CPU-Z) cu max 400 MHz.
Dar eu am avut instalate 2 stickuri cu 800 mHz (PC2-6400U DDR2-800) fara probleme 3 ani.

Oricum nu mai inteleg nimic, cine permite maximul de viteza pentru o memorie si de ce au fost instalate 2 memorii cu o capacitate mai mare daca placa nu ducea (asta daca am inteles eu bine).

In specificatiile HP imi spun sa utilizez doar non-ECC unbuffered, softwareul rulat imi spune la sfirsit ca ar trebui sa folosesc opusul.

Cum am cunostinte limitate, se pare ca alegerea unei placi noi va fi dificila, pt ca vreau sa pasterz memoriile pe care le am, fiind bune. In functie de experienta fiecaruia de shopping online, newegg nu prea are reviewuri bune, eu i-am evitat tot timpul, prefer futureshop sau bestbuy pentru ca am cu cine sa ma cert direct, fata in fata. Ceva experiente negative am avut cu Tiger Direct.

Computer
Manufacturer : HP (Compaq) Presario
Model : KQ513AAR-ABA SR5510F
Family : 103C_53316J
Serial Number : CN88230187
ID : 8149E380-10141250-709FDE84-248B171C
SKU Number : KQ513AAR#ABA

Computer Chassis
Manufacturer : HP
Type : Desktop
Can be locked : No

Mainboard
Manufacturer : ECS
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processing (MPS) Version : 1.40
Model : Iris8
Version : 1.0
BIOS : 06/10/2008-MCP61P-6A61KE11C-00
Chipset : nVidia nForce 6100/6150 MCP

On-board Devices
Other : Other (Disabled)
Video Adapter : Video Adapter (Disabled)
Ethernet Adapter : Ethernet Adapter (Disabled)
Sound Adapter : Sound Adapter (Disabled)

Computer Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 2
Maximum Installable Memory : 8GB
Bank0/1 - A4 : Empty
Bank2/3 - A6 : None None None None DIMM 1GB/64

Chipset
Model : AMD Athlon 64/Opteron HT Hub
Revision : A1
Bus : HyperTransport
Version : 1.02
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 1GHz (2GHz)
Maximum FSB Speed : 2x 1.8GHz (3.6GHz)
Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
I/O Queue Depth : 4 request(s)
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 7.85GB/s

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : HyperTransport
Version : 1.02
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Duplex : No
Multiplier : 5x
Speed : 2x 1GHz (2GHz)

Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank 6 : 1GB DIMM DDR2 6-6-6-18 3-25-6-3 2T
Supported Memory Types : ECC DIMM Registered DDR2 ChipKill
Channels : 1
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 373MHz (746MHz)
Maximum Memory Speed : 2x 400MHz (800MHz)
Multiplier : 1/7x
Width : 64-bit
Integrated in Processor : Yes
Cores per Memory Controller : 2 Unit(s)
Refresh Rate : 7.80µs
Power Save Mode : Yes
Fixed Hole Present : No
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 5.83GB/s

APIC 1
Version : 1.01
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

Memory Module
Manufacturer : Hynix (Hyundai)
Model : HYMP112U64CP8-S6
Serial Number : 00001004
Type : 1GB DIMM DDR2
Technology : 8x(128Mx8)
Speed : PC2-6400U DDR2-800
Standard Timings : 5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3
Version : 1.02
Date of Manufacture : August-05-08
Memory DC Line : 1.800V
Timing @ 400MHz : 5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3
Timing @ 333MHz : 4-5-5-15 3-20-5-3

Sensor
Model : AMD K8 CPU [P0, C2, SC1, SN0]
Version : 107.02
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
CPU Temperature : 39.50°C

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU DC Line : 1.325V

System Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.30
System Bus 0 : PCI
System Bus 1 : PCI
System Bus 2 : PCIe 1.00 x16 2.5Gbps
System Bus 3 : PCIe 1.00 x1 2.5Gbps
System Bus 4 : PCIe 1.00 x1 2.5Gbps

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : HP MCP61 LPC Bridge           
OEM Device Name : nVidia MCP61 LPC Bridge           
Revision : K3
ACPI Power Management : Yes
ACPI Power Management Enabled : No

LPC Legacy Controller 1
Type : ITE IT8726F
Version : 0.26
Number of Enabled Devices : 6 Unit(s)

Disk Controller
Model : HP MCP61 IDE
OEM Device Name : nVidia MCP61 IDE
Interface : ATA
Revision : K3
Channels : 4

Disk Controller
Model : HP MCP61 SATA Controller
OEM Device Name : nVidia MCP61 SATA Controller
Interface : SATA
Revision : K3
RAID Support : Yes
RAID Enabled : No

Audio Device
Model : HP MCP61 High Definition Audio
OEM Device Name : nVidia MCP61 High Definition Audio
Revision : K3
Type : HD (High-Definition) Audio
Version : 1.00
Number of In / Out / Bi-Directional Streams : 4 / 4 / 0
Number of Serial Data Streams : 1

Audio Codec
Model : Realtek Semi 888 High Definition Audio
Revision : A2
Version : 1.00
Audio Channels : 12

USB Controller 1
Model : HP MCP61 USB Controller
OEM Device Name : nVidia MCP61 USB Controller
Revision : K4
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 10
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : HP MCP61 USB Controller
OEM Device Name : nVidia MCP61 USB Controller
Revision : K4
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 10
Companion Controllers : 1
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 32-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

SMBus/i2c Controller 1
Model : nVidia MCP5 SMBus 1
Version : 10.02
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No

SMBus/i2c Controller 2
Model : nVidia MCP5 SMBus 2
Version : 10.02
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No

Expansion Slot(s)
PCI0 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Available
PCI1 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Available
PCI2 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Available
PCI3 (4h) : PCIe 32-bit +5V PME Full Used
PCI4 (5h) : PCIe 32-bit +5V PME Full Used
PCI5 (6h) : PCIe 32-bit +5V PME Full Used
PCI6 : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Used

Port Connector(s)
PRIMARY IDE : ATA
SECONDARY IDE : ATA
FDD : 8251 FIFO / Floppy Disk
COM1 : Serial Port 16450 / 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
COM2 : Serial Port 16450 / 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP / DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female
Keyboard : Keyboard / PS/2 / PS/2
PS/2 Mouse : Mouse / PS/2 / PS/2
USB0 : USB
VIDEO : Video / DB-15 pin female
AUDIO : Audio
ETHERNET : Network / RJ-45

Performance Enhancing Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Warning 2507 : Mainboard has too few memory slots. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded.
Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

[Tacalin]

degeaba ai cauciucuri care is bune pina la 260 Km/h daca masina ta stie maxim 180 si tu rulezi obisnuit la 110.

Faptul ca RAM-urile stiau 800 MHz, nu inseamna ca si rulau la viteza aia. Cea mai joasa viteza, recte cea a placii de baza, dicat viteza de lucru.

[daris]

OK, asta am inteles.
Deci pina acum rulau la viteza placii de baza (sau a chipsetului???) si dintr-o data ceva nu mai merge cu chipsetul/placa de baza si chiar daca reusesc sa cobor viteza la amindoua stickurile, tot la maximum de 373MHz va merge, adica prea jos pentru 2 stickuri.

In final trebuie sa schimb placa....sau calculatorul

Multumesc pentru raspunsuri

[Maximus]

This motherboard has jumpers to clear the Real Time Clock (RTC) RAM in CMOS.