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Coltul gamerului
« on: Monday 14 December 2015, 15:51:36 »
Cum se poate sa nu fie un topic pe tema asta? Sper sa nu se supere Ronin ca l-am facut aici, cred ca sta mai bine pe sectiunea asta.

Voiam sa va intreb cine are PS4, mai are cineva probleme cu ventilatorul in timpul jocului? E de-a dreptul jenant, face ca o turbina dupa vreo 30 de minute, se aude si prin casti. Am citit ca multi au problema asta, ma gandesc sa sun la Sony si poate sa-l trimit la ei, e inca in garantie. Acum joc "The Last Of Us" e fainut, dar nu ma da pe spate.

Hai ziceti, care-i jocul vostru preferat de pana acum? Nu-s vreun mare gamer, dar am ceva vechime, m-am apucat acum vreo 15 ani pe PC cand imi faceam singur modificari si overclocking la CPU si placa grafica. Deci am jucat multe din clasice ca sa zic asa, am facut o lunga pauza la PS3 din cauze de noi membri in familie si acum am schimbat consola. So far, pentru mine no.1 ramane "Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots" :)

Abia astept sa ma bag la Phantom Pain, cred ca acum in vacanta de Craciun.

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Re: Coltul gamerului
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 December 2015, 19:59:31 »
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"    Date Posted: Feb 14, 2015   #43   <blockquote> I'm sorry to bump this as it came on a google search but I just HAD to reply after reading some of these people's reasoning behind the loud fan and heating issues. I build computers so I know quite a lot about stuff like this especially in this situation because I have already fixed this exact issue on multiple PS4s AND PS3s. Your PS4 fan is getting loud and your PS4 is running hot because of what you're about to read below. What you're about to read IS NOT my opinion, it's FACTS. You can either accept my advice below or not. At least I know I tried to help by informing everyone in this thread who wants to know why their fan is so loud. You DO NOT have a defective PS4. You DO NOT have a defective FAN. Please read below. Again, you can either accept it or not.
 
 Sony uses CRAP THERMAL PASTE which is the SOLE REASON of your loud fan and heating issues just like PS3 had. The thermal paste Sony uses is very poor quality, and a lot of people having discovered their thermal paste to be on the dry side RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX just like mine. That's right, I bought a PS4, came home, and before plugging it in for the first time, I voided my warranty, and took it apart. I cleaned off the crap Sony thermal paste, and applied some Arctic Silver 5. My fan now NEVER goes past stage 2. PS4's fan has 4 stages ( speeds ). My friend's PS4 is ALWAYS on stage 2 idling, stage 3 and 4 in games which sounds like a JET. My fan is stage 1 during idle, and ALWAYS stage 2 in a game. Why? Because the new thermal paste is a million times better, it isn't half dry like Sony's paste was so now the heat from the CPU/GPU is being transferred properly to the heat sink and the fan is blowing hot air. If your PS4 has been on for a few hours, put your hand behind the back on the right side and feel the air coming out. If that air isn't HOT air then you're already suffering from the thermal paste not doing its job. When the thermal paste isn't doing its job then the heat isn't being transferred away from the chip, and the unit is overheating which is why your fan gets so loud. I have changed the thermal paste in 3 PS4s so far and each one is running much better and I've done the same thing to about 5 or 6 PS3s over the years and all of those are running much better. This is a KNOWN ISSUE with Sony as their thermal paste is one of the areas they cut corners. Again, yes this will void your warranty as you need to open your PS4 but in the long run you're going to have a better, cooler, and quieter running console, I GUARANTEE IT.
 
 I made a video ,
 
 
 
 If your PS4 is more than 3 months old then I REALLY HIGHLY RECOMMEND doing this or have a friend who knows the inside of  a computer do it for you. Hell, pay shipping both ways and I'll even do it for you free of charge only because I know the good this will do for your system. The chances of anything breaking in the first year is so slim anyway that ignoring the thermal paste issue just to keep your 1 year warranty has a higher chance of causing an issue than anything else. Once you ditch that crap thermal paste and use something much better, you will INSTANTLY notice a difference. A LOT of people have done this already and people continue to do it. The stock thermal paste IS THE REASON your fan gets so loud because the console IS IN FACT OVERHEATING so the fan needs to work harder to keep the console cool but in reality the console is struggling when it doesn't have to. Now, I'm sure a lot of people will argue this because they just don't know about it or don't want to void their warranty but like I said ignoring this does more harm than good to the PS4. Again, after doing this on 3 PS4s, each one NEVER hits stage 3 or 4 and the air coming out of the back after being on for a while is HOT not COLD. HOT air means GOOD, COLD air means BAD. Of course logical thinking wants you to think cold air means it's running cool but cold air REALLY MEANS that something is wrong as the heat isn't being transferred away from the chip and being blown out the console. The fans get super loud because the CPU/GPU is running too hot so the fan has to work harder. Again, I bought the PS4, opened it up as soon as I got home, and my paste was half dry...NOT GOOD. Thermal paste should only be getting dry after 3-5 years not right out of the box. You can Google this and find that I'm not the only one stating this. It's a known concern which again A LOT of people are doing it just like we did on our PS3s.
 
 I hope this information and video helps you as it will if you give it a chance. You will notice a HUGE DIFFERENCE I PROMISE you."


https://youtu.be/u7_l01yJGUk


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Re: Coltul gamerului
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 December 2015, 09:41:13 »
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O sa ma uit diseara la video, tot ce-i posibil. Eu ma gandeam la un heat sensor setat la nivel prea sensibil sau chiar un design prost de air flow inauntrul carcasei.

Partea funny e ca intr-o alta viata am 'construit' si eu calculatoare cum zice nenea ala, uneori si cate 20 pe zi, configuratii by request. Nu foloseam niciodata pasta din aia cheap, parca tin minte ca era alta argintie, o solutie de compromis mult mult mai buna decat 'pasta de dinti' cu care veneau procesoarele AMD in cutie. Arctic Silver 5 foloseam acasa la mine sau pentru prieteni ori clienti speciali.

Cu PS3 nu am probleme de genul asta, am prima generatie ("fat PS3") luata acum vreo 8 ani, e o bijuterie de masina.
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Re: Coltul gamerului
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 December 2015, 10:21:29 »

So far, pentru mine no.1 ramane "Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots" :)


FIFA 15/16

ocazional mai bag NFS (cu un volan logitech)

nu m-au prins shooterele pana acum, chiar imi obosesc ochii repede de la atatea flashuri pe ecran, am imbatranit :(

inca rulez pe PS3, merge fara pb si mai toate jocurile au variante si pt consola asta veche. O sa fac salt inainte cand va apare PS5
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Re: Coltul gamerului
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 December 2015, 10:34:56 »
FIFA 15/16

ocazional mai bag NFS (cu un volan logitech)

nu m-au prins shooterele pana acum, chiar imi obosesc ochii repede de la atatea flashuri pe ecran, am imbatranit :(

inca rulez pe PS3, merge fara pb si mai toate jocurile au variante si pt consola asta veche. O sa fac salt inainte cand va apare PS5

PS5 cred ca va aparea peste vreo 5 ani cel putin. Jocuri de sport nu joc, nu ma prind deloc :)

Metal Gear nu e shooter, e action-adventure, stealth etc. Are arme normal, dar nu e genul Call of Duty sau Counter-Strike. Bai ce bijuterie de joc e MGS4 sa-mi fut una. Gameplay, engine, story, pana si coloana sonora e absolut bestiala.
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Re: Coltul gamerului
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 December 2015, 11:01:09 »
zici ca-i roleplay si n-are flashuri d-alea de la impuscaturi?
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Re: Coltul gamerului
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 December 2015, 11:22:51 »
zici ca-i roleplay si n-are flashuri d-alea de la impuscaturi?

Chiar ca ai imbatranit, dar la concerte sau in cluburi cum mergi man, nu te deranjeaza stroboscoapele alea?  :)

Nu, RPG e in alta categorie, unde o decizie luata la un moment dat poate schimba cursul actiunii sau trasaturile personajului. Asta e action-adventure stealth, unde ai de explorat, rezolvat puzzles, scene de combat combinate cu povesti faine de tot. Eu mi-am comandat din Japonia coloana sonora completa pe 2 cd-uri, am platit de 3 ori mai mult cat costa jocul  :embarrass:

Un joc la fel de misto de care imi voi aminti tot timpul e Max Payne, l-am jucat pe PC cand a aparut. De mentionat aici ca pe PS3 feelingul la el nu e deloc acelasi, adica e mai nasol, l-am incercat multi ani mai tarziu. Se vede clar ca a fost creat pt. platforma Windows, elementul acela original de "bullet-time" se simte cel mai bine pe PC.
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Re: Coltul gamerului
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 December 2015, 12:09:41 »

PS5 cred ca va aparea peste vreo 5 ani cel putin.


neah, PS4 e vechi de 2 ani, ciclul traditional era de 5 ani pt o consola dar tehnologiile se dezvolta mai rapid si ar fi normal ca timpul de asteptare sa se scurteze

Sony a scos deja in toamna PlayStation VR, realitatea virtuala va inlocui jocurile traditionale si nu cred ca mai merita acum un upgrade la PS4

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/gaming/project-morpheus-1235379/review




Chiar ca ai imbatranit, dar la concerte sau in cluburi cum mergi man, nu te deranjeaza stroboscoapele alea?  :)


e altceva ca nu-s aproape de ochi ca un tv



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Re: Coltul gamerului
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 December 2015, 12:54:24 »
neah, PS4 e vechi de 2 ani, ciclul traditional era de 5 ani pt o consola dar tehnologiile se dezvolta mai rapid si ar fi normal ca timpul de asteptare sa se scurteze

Sony a scos deja in toamna PlayStation VR, realitatea virtuala va inlocui jocurile traditionale si nu cred ca mai merita acum un upgrade la PS4

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/gaming/project-morpheus-1235379/review

Misto asta PS VR, nu stiam de ea, o sa apara pe piata abia la anul si va fi compatibila doar cu PS4.

E clar ca o sa apara schimbari importante si noi concepte, dar nu cred ca timpii astia de 5 ani erau dictati de ritmul dezvoltarii tehnologiilor, imo. Sunt mai multe implicatii, de la decizii de marketing pana la cuvantul marilor studiouri de jocuri la nivel mondial care aloca bugete si resurse enorme pe mai multi ani in dezvoltarea unor jocuri pe anumite motoare, etc.
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Re: Coltul gamerului
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 15 December 2015, 16:57:54 »

Misto asta PS VR, nu stiam de ea, o sa apara pe piata abia la anul si va fi compatibila doar cu PS4.


banuiesc ca in prima faza vor scoate VR-ul ca un upgrade la PS4 in 2016, apoi dupa ce mai perfectioneaza tehnologia vor scoate un sistem complet nou prin 2017. Deci un upgrade semnificativ la 4 ani dupa lansarea PS4, eu pe asta mizez
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Re: Coltul gamerului
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 06 January 2016, 12:15:03 »
Un topic binevenit, bravo.

Eu inca sunt pe PS3, ala din first gen cu HDD de 80GB, nu am facut upgrade-ul inca, astept sa vina hardware refresh-ul la PS4 ca sa iau noua consola. Am sperat ca la CES 2016 sa anunte noul PS4 Slim dar nimic, daca intarzie probabil o sa iau un PS4 cu 1TB HDD.

In rest, Call of Duty, toate, cel putin asta ultim, Black Ops 3 este demential. Nu am insa prea mult timp, am vrut sa iau si Star Wars Battlefront insa nu am timp sa-l joc, poate cand iau PS4 sa nu dau de 2 ori banii pe acelasi joc. Asta ma enerveaza, ca nu pot sa joc colectia de jocuri pe consola noua, nu am inteles si pace de ce PS4 nu este compatibila cu versiunile de jocuri pt. PS3.
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 07 January 2016, 10:01:14 »
vad ca sunteti toti pe shootere

ronine, vad ca si tu esti pe PS, cu ce controller le joci, ai "move" + ceva pe langa care sa simuleze o arma?

si eu stau prost cu timpul dar ma gandesc sa-mi fac o colectie de jocuri pana nu dispar de pe piata datorita noilor console. Eu pana la PS5 (sau cum s-o mai numi atunci) nici nu ma gandesc sa schimb consola
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Re: Coltul gamerului
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 07 January 2016, 13:18:22 »
vad ca sunteti toti pe shootere

ronine, vad ca si tu esti pe PS, cu ce controller le joci, ai "move" + ceva pe langa care sa simuleze o arma?

si eu stau prost cu timpul dar ma gandesc sa-mi fac o colectie de jocuri pana nu dispar de pe piata datorita noilor console. Eu pana la PS5 (sau cum s-o mai numi atunci) nici nu ma gandesc sa schimb consola
Man, am incercat si arme cu controller integrat, am avut si mouse plus hand joystick insa nimic nu mi-a imbunatatit jocul asa ca tot la controller-ul clasic am revenit.
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