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Re: Sa ne radem, azi iar US...
« Reply #120 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 08:54:41 »
asa si povestea din gasland se adevereste, cu apa de la robinet care arde
si fermieru bolnav care a omorit pe nush ce executiv sa se razbune
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« Reply #121 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 09:10:25 »
O parere despre Gasland; nu e a mea, eu nu l-am vazut.
 
This mocumentary is full of flaws. Fracking fluid isnt pumped directly into the ground, its pumped into a pipe which is encased in cement. The fracking fluid then fractures the cement and by that time the pressure of the external gas pushing inward is too strong to allow the fluid to go anywhere but up and out. These people are getting sick because they had the good sense to drill a water well above the D-J and Piceance natural gas basins! They basically drilled their own gas well and are drinking the formation and production fluids! Anybody who understands natural gas production knows this is a load of crap. Most of it is made up and the rest is just ignorance. These people would have had water problems regardless of the natural gas producing companies in the area.
 
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In the film’s signature moment Mike Markham, a landowner, ignites his tap water. The film leaves the viewer with the impression the flaming tap water is a result of natural gas drilling. However, according to the Colorado Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which tested Markham’s water in 2008, at his request, methane in his water supply had “no indications of oil & gas related impacts to water well.” Instead the investigation found that the cause was “biogenic” in nature, meaning it was naturally occurring due to the fact that his water well had been drilled into a natural gas pocket. The film leaves a clear—and false—perception that hydraulic fracturing was to blame. This is simply not true, and there are several examples where the film veers from the facts. A second depiction of a flaming faucet in the home of Renee McClure in Colorado also leaves viewers with a false impression about the connection between gas industry activities and methane in water wells. McClure’s well was sampled by the state and it, too, showed only naturally occurring methane." I would caution viewers not to believe everything they see on TV and on the big screen as fact. I guess the movie wouldn't have been as exciting if there was no one to blame for the homeowner's flaming water.
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« Reply #122 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 10:13:56 »
bre ronine, mai cata bre ceva documentare, ca uite baluba ti le demonteaza rapid
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« Reply #123 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 10:41:16 »
Am uitat una buna din Fuel: Josh asta al nost sugereaza ca pe Diesel l-a omorat Rockefeller, bossul lui Standard Oil, pentru ca Rockefeller voia sa-l impiedice pe Diesel sa spuna lumii ca motorul lui merge cu peanut oil, ceea ce l-ar fi ruinat pe Rockefeller si ar fi dat puterea inapoi in mainile taranilor.
 
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« Reply #124 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 10:47:56 »
bio-fuel

Iata o minunata idee scoasa din negura unor minti ce se cred progresiste chiar daca sint total ignorante.
Exista food shortage dar fermierii prefera sa planteze pentru productia de bio-fuel. Ma bine platita recolta, mai putin de munca.
Vom trage la pompa aia vopsita in culorile gree-peace, vom alimenta mindri SUV-ul (care ne va da si mai putine mile la galon, asa, cam 10-12) in timp ce matzele vor ghiorlai de foame. Ba la noi, in vest nu prea  cred dar in multe alte tari da.

Pretl exagerat al alimentelor este doar una din consecintele directe ale acestei idei ce poate sta alaturi de geniala masura a Marelui Cirmaci, aceea de a planta legume prin parcurile, scuarele sau medianele verzi ale oraselor romanesi in locul panselutelor.
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« Reply #125 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 11:36:45 »
Maestro, bio-fuel e cam mort ca si concept, sa dea naiba daca vezi pe la pompe iar la pret nu e nici o afacere, insa tot astept de 2 ani de la nea Obama sa vina ceva stimulusuri pt. energii alternative, insa nimic, zero, nada.
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« Reply #126 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 11:37:47 »
bre ronine, mai cata bre ceva documentare, ca uite baluba ti le demonteaza rapid
Baluba nu prinde nici HBO sa vada GasLand dar sa mai demonteze ceva, mai bine faci ping-pong cu peretele, e mai productiv... ;)
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« Reply #127 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 11:39:06 »
Iata o minunata idee scoasa din negura unor minti ce se cred progresiste chiar daca sint total ignorante.
Exista food shortage dar fermierii prefera sa planteze pentru productia de bio-fuel. Ma bine platita recolta, mai putin de munca.
Vom trage la pompa aia vopsita in culorile gree-peace, vom alimenta mindri SUV-ul (care ne va da si mai putine mile la galon, asa, cam 10-12) in timp ce matzele vor ghiorlai de foame. Ba la noi, in vest nu prea  cred dar in multe alte tari da.

Pretl exagerat al alimentelor este doar una din consecintele directe ale acestei idei ce poate sta alaturi de geniala masura a Marelui Cirmaci, aceea de a planta legume prin parcurile, scuarele sau medianele verzi ale oraselor romanesi in locul panselutelor.

Posibil, dar intre comfortul si mobilitatea omului din NA si foamea africanului, intotdeauna va prima comfortul celui dintai. E cinic dar asa ne invata istoria.

Daca ar exista si alte alternative reale (insist asupra lui REAL) de energie regenerabila ar avea noima discutia. Din pacate, nu sunt. Cand terminam petrolul o sa ne plimbam in masini cu biofuel. Chiar daca ii decimam pe cei care depind de porumb la 5 dolari obrocul pentru a supravietui.

Maestro, bio-fuel e cam mort ca si concept, sa dea naiba daca vezi pe la pompe iar la pret nu e nici o afacere, insa tot astept de 2 ani de la nea Obama sa vina ceva stimulusuri pt. energii alternative, insa nimic, zero, nada.

E mort acuma, la 100 dolari barilul ca traieste din subventii. Cand ajunge la 250...300 devine rentabil, in fapt devine singura sursa de energie realizabila tehnologic in acest moment.
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« Reply #128 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 11:59:30 »
cu petrolu la 300 lei cred ca doar china va mai cumpara exclusiv pt productia de caucioace de bicicleta.
partea proasta e ca tot cam atit va dura comutu meu pe 401
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« Reply #129 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 12:04:11 »
Posibil, dar intre comfortul si mobilitatea omului din NA si foamea africanului, intotdeauna va prima comfortul celui dintai. E cinic dar asa ne invata istoria.

Daca ar exista si alte alternative reale (insist asupra lui REAL) de energie regenerabila ar avea noima discutia. Din pacate, nu sunt. Cand terminam petrolul o sa ne plimbam in masini cu biofuel. Chiar daca ii decimam pe cei care depind de porumb la 5 dolari obrocul pentru a supravietui.
eolianu, solaru, nuclearu sunt destul de alternative si reale. cu putin research in partea de stocaj (hyundai deja le-a dat rusine japonezilor cu bateriile lor Li-Po mai eficiente si mai usoare decat NiMH) se pot realiza masini full-electrice cu electricitate curata (nu aia din carbune).
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« Reply #130 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 12:05:25 »
E mort acuma, la 100 dolari barilul ca traieste din subventii. Cand ajunge la 250...300 devine rentabil, in fapt devine singura sursa de energie realizabila tehnologic in acest moment.
Pai nemtii l-au popularizat tot din cauza de lipsuri, remember WW2?

In domeniul bio carburantilor la cercetare si inovatie conduce detasat Brazilia, normal era ca US sa fie pe metereze la energii alternative, nu aia in curs de dezvoltare.
Anyway, e trist ca singura alternativa reala cum bine spui e biofuel, insa nu e normal ca la pompa litrul de bio sa coste exact sau mai mult decat regular gas, cineva iar fura din cosnita.
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« Reply #131 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 12:09:34 »
eolianu, solaru, nuclearu sunt destul de alternative si reale. cu putin research in partea de stocaj (hyundai deja le-a dat rusine japonezilor cu bateriile lor Li-Po mai eficiente si mai usoare decat NiMH) se pot realiza masini full-electrice cu electricitate curata (nu aia din carbune).
Cand man?, tot aud povesti, uite a iesit pe piata Chevy Volt, e peste 40K, se incarca in 10 ore in conditii normale si poti merge 40 de mile pe electric tot in conditii normale. La -10, -15, -20 si mai jos iarna ce facem, tot pe gas ca electric o suje.
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« Reply #132 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 12:24:59 »
Cand man?, tot aud povesti, uite a iesit pe piata Chevy Volt, e peste 40K, se incarca in 10 ore in conditii normale si poti merge 40 de mile pe electric tot in conditii normale. La -10, -15, -20 si mai jos iarna ce facem, tot pe gas ca electric o suje.
lasa-i ca se imbunatateste. daca pui priza d-aia meseriasa (cum e la aragaz si masina de uscat) se incarca in 4 ore or smth. sunt avansuri tehnologice.

nu stiu de ce nu se pune mai mult accent si pe fuel cell ala de il tot testau GM (parca si arnold luase un hammer pe fuel cell).
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« Reply #133 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 12:42:47 »
Astept sa faca un fuel cell ca in Terminator, o dracie daia sa fie mini-nuke si sa fie life span de 20-40 years, ala da progres.
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« Reply #134 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 12:45:42 »
Astept sa faca un fuel cell ca in Terminator, o dracie daia sa fie mini-nuke si sa fie life span de 20-40 years, ala da progres.
pai iti convine sa aterizezi in pielea goala ?
daca n-ai nici un bar de bickeri la indemana ca sa le iei pantalonii si geaca de piele, ce faci ?
brrrr, mi-ar fi frica.
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« Reply #135 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 13:00:10 »
pai iti convine sa aterizezi in pielea goala ?
daca n-ai nici un bar de bickeri la indemana ca sa le iei pantalonii si geaca de piele, ce faci ?
brrrr, mi-ar fi frica.
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« Reply #136 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 13:26:37 »
daca aterizeste in torano s-a scos, ca ie voie la uscat rufele in backyard, o rochitza sau fustitza sau macar niste chiloti de baba tot gaseste
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« Reply #137 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 13:35:12 »
daca aterizeste in torano s-a scos, ca ie voie la uscat rufele in backyard, o rochitza sau fustitza sau macar niste chiloti de baba tot gaseste
daca vine in Brampton isi ia pijamalele gratis.
Plus caciula-infasurata, ca iarna e frig.
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« Reply #138 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 14:00:59 »
Mah voi aveti impresia ca Zana Maselutza o sa fie atat de rea incat sa aterizez yo la Hotario, dau shpaga bey si aterizez la Miami, Vegas, Cancun, nu la Hontario de Deal, pe criza se corup usor si zanele... :tease: :laugh:
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« Reply #139 on: Friday 17 December 2010, 14:32:05 »
iote fa leio ce zice asta, te-ai grabit sa te faci printesa in loc sa te faci zina, aveai alta trecere...
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