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Re: Sa ne radem, azi iar US...
« Reply #960 on: Thursday 20 December 2012, 22:36:44 »
food stamps inseamna cantina saracilor, nu?
ca multi asociaza probabil cu bonurile de masa.

Food stamps nu inseamna cantina saracilor. Cei care au food stamps beneficiaza de preturi reduse la alimentara la anumite produse. De asemenea, nu se adauga sales tax la aceste produse daca sunt cumparate cu food stamps. Formerly known as Food Stamps si currently known as SNAP Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, sunt oferite celor cu income scazut sau no income si este furnizat sub forma de card de plastic sau de EBT card. 
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« Reply #961 on: Thursday 20 December 2012, 22:47:59 »
Cinderella iz baack :) Bine ai revenit! Ai vazut ce l-o mitraliat Piers Morgan pe vanzatorul ala de arme din Texas?
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« Reply #962 on: Thursday 20 December 2012, 23:01:15 »
Bine v-am regasit xox de Piers morganu din seara asta zici? L-am înregistrat. Sunt cu Direct Tv acum, am divortat de comcast după ani de zile de jumuleala. Încă am de învățat cum merg butoane la canalele la astia cu sateliti :D deci, chiar dacă nu am văzut încă, ce poate fi mai misto decât facerea de rahat a unui NRA redneck din Texas?
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« Reply #963 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 05:33:32 »
Food stamps nu inseamna cantina saracilor. Cei care au food stamps beneficiaza de preturi reduse la alimentara la anumite produse. De asemenea, nu se adauga sales tax la aceste produse daca sunt cumparate cu food stamps. Formerly known as Food Stamps si currently known as SNAP Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, sunt oferite celor cu income scazut sau no income si este furnizat sub forma de card de plastic sau de EBT card.

 Da, la dat nume pompoase americanii au fost number one intotdeauna, si omul de serviciu este cleaning manager...same shit different name.

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« Reply #964 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 08:38:00 »
my 2 cents: nu e deloc, da' chiar deloc motiv de mandrie sa locuiesti in Germania. they fucked up the whole Europe and not only once. n-are niciun sens sa compari cu americanii sau cu altcineva cand generatia nemtilor care a provocat in fond atatea lucruri incalificabile pentru rasa umana inca mai traieste.
hai lasati cu scuzele, nicio urma de ciocolata, brad si alte rahaturi nemtesti nu pot sa stearga niste realitati. pfff
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« Reply #965 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 09:30:37 »
Cine vorbea de Germania aici? Ziceam ca americanii dau nume pompoase care nu schimba realitatea, si George Carlin a ilustrat-o asa de bine cu political corectness-ul cu " words that take life out of life" .

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« Reply #966 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 12:13:44 »
Ziceam ca americanii dau nume pompoase care nu schimba realitatea

Eu stiu un depresiv care isi construieste propria realitate folosind nume pompoase ca "dumnezeii germani".
A nu se mai folosi englezisme ca checks and balances, ci termeni puri romanesti ca cecuri si balante.

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« Reply #967 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 14:09:06 »
Declaratia de azi a sefului NRA este halucinanta, nu stiu daca sa rad sau sa plang:


"The National Rifle Association’s 4 million mothers, fathers, sons and daughters join the nation in horror, outrage, grief and earnest prayer for the families of Newtown, Connecticut … who suffered such incomprehensible loss as a result of this unspeakable crime.

Out of respect for those grieving families, and until the facts are known, the NRA has refrained from comment. While some have tried to exploit tragedy for political gain, we have remained respectfully silent.

Now, we must speak … for the safety of our nation’s children. Because for all the noise and anger directed at us over the past week, no one — nobody — has addressed the most
important, pressing and immediate question we face: How do we protect our children right now, starting today, in a way that we know works?

The only way to answer that question is to face up to the truth. Politicians pass laws for Gun-Free School Zones. They issue press
 releases bragging about them. They post signs advertising them. And in so doing, they tell every insane killer in America that schools are their safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk.

How have our nation’s priorities gotten so far out of order? Think about it. We care about our money, so we protect our banks with
 armed guards. American airports, office buildings, power plants, courthouses — even sports stadiums — are all protected by armed
 security.

We care about the President, so we protect him with armed Secret Service agents. Members of Congress work in offices surrounded by
 armed Capitol Police officers.

Yet when it comes to the most beloved, innocent and vulnerable members of the American family — our children — we as a society
 leave them utterly defenseless, and the monsters and predators of this world know it and exploit it. That must change now!

The truth is that our society is populated by an unknown number of genuine monsters — people so deranged, so evil, so possessed by
 voices and driven by demons that no sane person can possibly ever comprehend them. They walk among us every day. And does anybody
 really believe that the next Adam Lanza isn’t planning his attack on a school he’s already identified at this very moment?

How many more copycats are waiting in the wings for their moment of fame — from a national media machine that rewards them with the
 wall-to-wall attention and sense of identity that they crave — while provoking others to try to make their mark? A dozen more killers? A hundred? More? How can we possibly even guess how many, given our nation’s refusal to create an active national database of the mentally ill?

And the fact is, that wouldn’t even begin to address the much larger and more lethal criminal class: Killers, robbers, rapists and drug gang members who have spread like cancer in every community in this country. Meanwhile, federal gun prosecutions have decreased by 40% — to the lowest levels in a decade.

So now, due to a declining willingness to prosecute dangerous criminals, violent crime is increasing again for the first time in 19 years! Add another hurricane, terrorist attack or some other natural or man-made disaster, and you’ve got a recipe for a national nightmare of violence and victimization.

And here’s another dirty little truth that the media try their best to conceal: There exists in this country a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells, and sows, violence against its own people.

Through vicious, violent video games with names like Bulletstorm, Grand Theft Auto, Mortal Kombat and Splatterhouse. And here’s one: it’s called Kindergarten Killers. It’s been online for 10 years. How come my research department could find it and all of yours either couldn’t or didn’t want anyone to know you had found it?

Then there’s the blood-soaked slasher films like “American Psycho” and “Natural Born Killers” that are aired like propaganda loops on “Splatterdays” and every day, and a thousand music videos that portray life as a joke and murder as a way of life. And then they have the nerve to call it “entertainment.”

But is that what it really is? Isn’t fantasizing about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography?

In a race to the bottom, media conglomerates compete with one another to shock, violate and offend every standard of civilized
 society by bringing an ever-more-toxic mix of reckless behavior and criminal cruelty into our homes — every minute of every day of
 every month of every year.

A child growing up in America witnesses 16,000 murders and 200,000 acts of violence by the time he or she reaches the ripe old age of 18.

And throughout it all, too many in our national media … their corporate owners … and their stockholders … act as silent enablers, if not complicit co-conspirators. Rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonize lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national debate with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action and all but guarantee that the next atrocity is only a news cycle away.

The media call semi-automatic firearms “machine guns” — they claim these civilian semi-automatic firearms are used by the military, and they tell us that the .223 round is one of the most powerful rifle calibers … when all of these claims are factually untrue. They don’t know what they’re talking about!

Worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban — or one more law imposed on peaceful, lawful people — will protect us where 20,000 others have failed!

As brave, heroic and self-sacrificing as those teachers were in those classrooms, and as prompt, professional and well-trained as those police were when they responded, they were unable — through no fault of their own — to stop it.

As parents, we do everything we can to keep our children safe. It is now time for us to assume responsibility for their safety at school. The only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away … or a minute away?

Now, I can imagine the shocking headlines you’ll print tomorrow morning: “More guns,” you’ll claim, “are the NRA’s answer to
 everything!” Your implication will be that guns are evil and have no place in society, much less in our schools. But since when did the word “gun” automatically become a bad word?

A gun in the hands of a Secret Service agent protecting the President isn’t a bad word. A gun in the hands of a soldier protecting the United States isn’t a bad word. And when you hear the glass breaking in your living room at 3 a.m. and call 911, you won’t be able to pray hard enough for a gun in the hands of a good guy to get there fast enough to protect you.

So why is the idea of a gun good when it’s used to protect our President or our country or our police, but bad when it’s used to
 protect our children in their schools?

They’re our kids. They’re our responsibility. And it’s not just our duty to protect them — it’s our right to protect them.

You know, five years ago, after the Virginia Tech tragedy, when I said we should put armed security in every school, the media called me crazy. But what if, when Adam Lanza started shooting his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School last Friday, he had been confronted by qualified, armed security?

Will you at least admit it’s possible that 26 innocent lives might have been spared? Is that so abhorrent to you that you would rather continue to risk the alternative?

Is the press and political class here in Washington so consumed by fear and hatred of the NRA and America’s gun owners that you’re willing to accept a world where real resistance to evil monsters is a lone, unarmed school principal left to surrender her life to shield the children in her care? No one — regardless of personal political prejudice — has the right to impose that sacrifice.

Ladies and gentlemen, there is no national, one-size-fits-all solution to protecting our children. But do know this President zeroed out school emergency planning grants in last year’s budget, and scrapped “Secure Our Schools” policing grants in next year’s budget.

With all the foreign aid, with all the money in the federal budget, we can’t afford to put a police officer in every school? Even if they did that, politicians have no business — and no authority — denying us the right, the ability, or the moral imperative to protect ourselves and our loved ones from harm.

Now, the National Rifle Association knows that there are millions of qualified active and retired police; active, reserve and retired military; security professionals; certified firefighters and rescue personnel; and an extraordinary corps of patriotic, trained qualified citizens to join with local school officials and police in devising a protection plan for every school. We can deploy them to protect our kids now. We can immediately make America’s schools safer — relying on the brave men and women of America’s police force.

The budget of our local police departments are strained and resources are limited, but their dedication and courage are second to none and they can be deployed right now.

I call on Congress today to act immediately, to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school — and to do it now, to make sure that blanket of safety is in place when our children return to school in January.

Before Congress reconvenes, before we engage in any lengthy debate over legislation, regulation or anything else, as soon as our kids return to school after the holiday break, we need to have every single school in America immediately deploy a protection program proven to work — and by that I mean armed security.

Right now, today, every school in the United States should plan meetings with parents, school administrators, teachers and local authorities — and draw upon every resource available — to erect a cordon of protection around our kids right now. Every school will have a different solution based on its own unique situation.

Every school in America needs to immediately identify, dedicate and deploy the resources necessary to put these security forces in place right now. And the National Rifle Association, as America’s preeminent trainer of law enforcement and security personnel for the past 50 years, is ready, willing and uniquely qualified to help.

Our training programs are the most advanced in the world. That expertise must be brought to bear to protect our schools and our children now. We did it for the nation’s defense industries and military installations during World War II, and we’ll do it for our schools today.

The NRA is going to bring all of its knowledge, dedication and resources to develop a model National School Shield Emergency Response Program for every school that wants it. From armed security to building design and access control to information technology to student and teacher training, this multi-faceted program will be developed by the very best experts in their fields.

Former Congressman Asa Hutchinson will lead this effort as National Director of the National School Shield Program, with a budget provided by the NRA of whatever scope the task requires. His experience as a U.S. Attorney, Director of the Drug Enforcement Agency and Undersecretary of the Department of Homeland Security will give him the knowledge and expertise to hire the most knowledgeable and credentialed experts available anywhere, to get this program up and running from the first day forward.

If we truly cherish our kids more than our money or our celebrities, we must give them the greatest level of protection possible and the security that is only available with a properly trained — armed — good guy.

Under Asa’s leadership, our team of security experts will make this the best program in the world for protecting our children at school, and we will make that program available to every school in America free of charge.

That’s a plan of action that can, and will, make a real, positive and indisputable difference in the safety of our children —
 starting right now.

There’ll be time for talk and debate later. This is the time, this is the day for decisive action.

We can’t wait for the next unspeakable crime to happen before we act. We can’t lose precious time debating legislation that won’t work. We mustn’t allow politics or personal prejudice to divide us. We must act now.

For the sake of the safety of every child in America, I call on every parent, every teacher, every school administrator and every law enforcement officer in this country to join us in the National School Shield Program and protect our children with the only line of positive defense that’s tested and proven to work.
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Singurele idei de bun simt sunt extra security la scoli si institutii de invatamant sau cladiri de interes public si gun free schools, restul este de domeniul patologicului.
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Re: Sa ne radem, azi iar US...
« Reply #968 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 14:14:07 »
Io cred ca in fiecare scoala baietii trebuie sa primeasca mitraliere, una pe cap de elev.

N-o sa se mai apropie nimeni de scoli.
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« Reply #969 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 15:08:59 »
fetele, nu uitati sa mai si mincati ca vi se observa deviatiile la bibilica
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« Reply #970 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 18:07:13 »
I call on Congress today to act immediately, to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school — and to do it now, to make sure that blanket of safety is in place when our children return to school in January.

 
Not IN schools, I don't want guns so close to my child.
 
2 officers on patrol around the school, might be a good idea.
A nu se mai folosi englezisme ca checks and balances, ci termeni puri romanesti ca cecuri si balante.

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« Reply #971 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 19:06:21 »
Yep, tocmai au mai murit niste oameni iar politistii ce-au intervenit au fost raniti pentru ca-n lume idiotii au arme... ei cu ele pot face orice... bunul simt, daca doarme, in zadar intreba-ve-ti de ce...
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« Reply #972 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 19:47:07 »
ala de-aseara cu NRA din Texas zicea la tv ca si profesorii tre sa aiba arma ca sa-i poata apara pe copii.
- da' daca le fura cineva arma sau le cade din geanta?
-pai nuu, ca-s responsabili si le dam antrenament de trageri sa se poata apara
-pai cum poti raspunde proportional la atac cu arma de asalt?
-a, trebuie sa aiba arme pe masura
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« Reply #973 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 20:03:18 »
ala de-aseara cu NRA din Texas zicea la tv ca si profesorii tre sa aiba arma ca sa-i poata apara pe copii.


Aia-i o prostie.
Cealalta propunere insa cu securizarea scolilor de catre politisti mi  se pare de bun simt.
Cheltuim bani pe securitate la toate porcariile de institutii publice, in afara de scoli.
De ce sa fie paziti aia care incaseaza taxele de politai la fiecare usa si copiii nu?
A nu se mai folosi englezisme ca checks and balances, ci termeni puri romanesti ca cecuri si balante.

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« Reply #974 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 20:55:06 »

Aia-i o prostie.
Cealalta propunere insa cu securizarea scolilor de catre politisti mi  se pare de bun simt.
Cheltuim bani pe securitate la toate porcariile de institutii publice, in afara de scoli.
De ce sa fie paziti aia care incaseaza taxele de politai la fiecare usa si copiii nu?
O sa te doara mintea, dar eu cred ca ar trebui facut un calcul in termeni de $/viata salvata (sau $/ani de viata salvati, copii ies atunci mai valorosi) care sa determine unde trebuie investiti banii.

S-ar putea de exemplu ca ajutorarea saracilor sa fie mai ieftina in termeni de vieti salvate. Sau echipament pentru soldatii din Afganistan. Sau....
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« Reply #975 on: Friday 21 December 2012, 21:09:19 »
O sa te doara mintea, dar eu cred ca ar trebui facut un calcul in termeni de $/viata salvata (sau $/ani de viata salvati, copii ies atunci mai valorosi) care sa determine unde trebuie investiti banii.

S-ar putea de exemplu ca ajutorarea saracilor sa fie mai ieftina in termeni de vieti salvate. Sau echipament pentru soldatii din Afganistan. Sau....

Vrei sa spui ca in loc sa angajam politisti care sa protejeze scolile ar trebui sa dam acesti bani saracilor?
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« Reply #976 on: Saturday 22 December 2012, 02:56:09 »
Vrei sa spui ca in loc sa angajam politisti care sa protejeze scolile ar trebui sa dam acesti bani saracilor?
Nu saracilor adica lucreaza pe minimum wage.
Dar s-ar putea (adica e ceva de calculat) ca angajatul de politisti sa fie foarte scump in termen de dolar/viata salvata (pentru ca angajezi o gramada de politisti, si totusi mass shootings in scoli sunt relativ rare), in timp ce ajutorarea celor *foarte saraci* (homeless) sa iti permita sa salvezi mai multe vieti cu mai putini bani.

Sau s-ar putea sa fie mai eficace (in termeni de dolari pe viata salvata) sa cumperi mai multe UAV-uri care sa-i ajute pe soldatii din Afganistan. Sau mai mult echipament pentru spitale.

Nu stiu a priori care e cea mai eficace metoda. Dar trebuie puse toate optiunile pe masa, vazut cat costa o viata salvata in fiecare metoda, si vazut ce salveaza cele mai multe vieti cu banii pe care ii avem la dispozitie.
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« Reply #977 on: Saturday 22 December 2012, 08:34:54 »
Nu stiu a priori care e cea mai eficace metoda. Dar trebuie puse toate optiunile pe masa, vazut cat costa o viata salvata in fiecare metoda, si vazut ce salveaza cele mai multe vieti cu banii pe care ii avem la dispozitie.

Din banii care se cheltuie cu paza presedintelui ar putea fi salvati mii de homelessi.
De ce vrei tu sa tai banii de la copii?
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« Reply #978 on: Saturday 22 December 2012, 09:35:19 »
Nu stiu a priori care e cea mai eficace metoda. Dar trebuie puse toate optiunile pe masa, vazut cat costa o viata salvata in fiecare metoda, si vazut ce salveaza cele mai multe vieti cu banii pe care ii avem la dispozitie.

Alo, domnu' Mengele, eu zic sa terminam toti batrinii peste 70 de ani ca cheltuie prea mult pe sanatate. Cu banii economisiti putem salva citiva tineri blonzi, cu ochi albastri, buni de munca si platitori de taxe.

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« Reply #979 on: Saturday 22 December 2012, 09:43:52 »
Din banii care se cheltuie cu paza presedintelui ar putea fi salvati mii de homelessi.
De ce vrei tu sa tai banii de la copii?

Pentru ca, fara garda personala, presedintele SUA ar avea un risc inacceptabil de a muri.

Deja din ultimii 10 presedinti or so, unul a fost omorat (Kennedy) si unul a fost ranit (Reagan). Daca faci inmultirile, rezulta ca presedinte e o meserie mai periculoasa decat soldat.

Nu poti totusi sa ai o tara in care presedintele sa fie ales pe criteriul "e sinucigas".
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