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Re: Boeing 737 Max-8
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 13 March 2019, 17:37:01 »

US President Donald Trump has decided to ground all Boeing 737 Max airplanes, citing safety concerns after the fatal crash in Ethiopia. The US was among the last holdovers in grounding the controversial jet.
“The safety of the American people and all people is our paramount concern,”Trump said Wednesday at the White House, announcing the measure. The order applies to all Max 8 and Max 9 versions of the popular airliner.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max-8
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 13 March 2019, 17:38:10 »
Cu chestia asta a facut exact ce dorea electoratul ! E foarte destept Trump !
Eu zic ca a castigat deja al doilea termen in Casa Alba !
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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 13 March 2019, 22:10:39 »
asa si justina e destept ca si el a banat boengurile, deci si el cistiga inca un mandat?
doamne apara si pazeste.
ah, stai ca justina nu se pricepe la avioane, ce poti sa-i ceri, un biet profesorash de drama, ministrul transporturilor a interzis boengurile.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max-8
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 13 March 2019, 22:15:53 »
Probabil ca are dreptate si de data asta ! Hai sa dau cateva exemple:
 1)Tractoarele . Pana prin anii 1980 , fermierii fugeau de tractoarele americane/frantuzesti/germane etc pentru ca le faceau computerizate si costa prea mult , atat echipamentul dar mai ales tehnicienii cu inalta calificare ce trebuiau sa le repare .
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sa vezi presele ce complicate este, lasere, relee de siguranta, pielsiuri, istopuri and shit.
noroc ca n-a izbutit nimeni sa le implementeze pilot automat si nici stiuardese.
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« Reply #24 on: Thursday 14 March 2019, 12:45:52 »
The flight data and cockpit voice recorders from doomed Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 arrived in Paris on Thursday where French aviation authorities were tasked with probing the black boxes for clues to the tragedy.
]France’s Bureau of Enquiry and Analysis for Civil Aviation Safety, or BEA, said there was no immediate information on the condition of the recorders. Preliminary information could take several days to extract, the agency said.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max-8
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 14 March 2019, 14:51:57 »
Acu io nu mi as tine respiratia pina descifreaza aia cutia, ca s a mai intimplat ca black boxu da fie damaged badly si informatia sa fie irecuperabila.
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday 14 March 2019, 15:04:34 »
Au trimis in Franta, le e teama ca americanii ar fi “tamper the evidence”
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« Reply #27 on: Thursday 14 March 2019, 15:56:20 »
Puteau  o trimita in venezuela sau rusia la fel de bine.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max-8
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 14 March 2019, 21:11:30 »
Au trimis in Franta, le e teama ca americanii ar fi “tamper the evidence”

faima de incoruptibili a francezilor e chiar faimoasă in lumea-ntreagă :grin:
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Re: Boeing 737 Max-8
« Reply #29 on: Friday 15 March 2019, 19:59:39 »
Se pare ca acest software a cauzat prabusirea avionului Etiopian.
MCAS un sistem care preia controlul avionului si ajusteaza automat carma, aripile viteza samd a facut ca acest avion sa descenada spre pamant...
o poza care face o mie de cuvinte
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« Reply #30 on: Friday 15 March 2019, 20:03:23 »
faima de incoruptibili a francezilor e chiar faimoasă in lumea-ntreagă :grin:
eu inteleg ca ai reserve impotriva Frantei ( ori quebecosilor ) pentru ca traiesti printre ei si sunt clar o societate corupta comparativ cu cea anglo saxona, ( vezi scandalul SNC Lavalin )
Dar acum nu e cazul sa fii sceptic, e normal sa nu o duca in USA, unde Boeing ar fi facut pe dracu in patru sa ascunda cauza accidentului.


Sa fiu sincer nici daca o ducea in Germania nu cred ca aveau sansa Etiopienii, germania este total sub papucul CIA/NSA nu au nimic independent care sa faca o investigatie autonoma.


Avionul a continuat sa accelereze pana ce s-a prabusit !
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Re: Boeing 737 Max-8
« Reply #31 on: Friday 15 March 2019, 22:51:26 »
Se pare ca acest software a cauzat prabusirea avionului Etiopian.
MCAS un sistem care ..
de ce se bazeaza oamenii pe software ?
de ce nu piloteaza ei avionul ?
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Re: Boeing 737 Max-8
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 16 March 2019, 10:19:59 »
de ce se bazeaza oamenii pe software ?
de ce nu piloteaza ei avionul ?


n-auzi ca o spus trump ca avionu e o scula prea complicata?

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« Reply #33 on: Saturday 16 March 2019, 12:14:38 »
de ce se bazeaza oamenii pe software ?
de ce nu piloteaza ei avionul ?
fiindca in lume sunt foarte putini moldoveni. Numai aia stiu sa chiloteze.
Fara ei, se intampla tragedii.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max-8
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 20 March 2019, 18:03:15 »
Aia de la American Airlines au 2 monitoare extra la ambii piloti tocmai pt. a detecta situatii de genul (nose dive) pe avioanele 737 Max8 din flota lor, deci pilotii de teste de la AA au fost geana si au cerut din start modificari pt. a contracara problema.
Eu am zburat cu Max9 pe United, foarte OK avionul, totul a fost smooth. Astea de au cazut sunt Max8, Air Canada are numai Max8, idem AA, Southwest are Max 7 si 8, United are numai Max9 si 10 in order.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-19/how-an-extra-man-in-cockpit-saved-a-737-max-that-later-crashed
Mai nou se pare ca in cazul Lion Air problema a aparut cu 1 zi inainte de accident, exact cu 1 zi inainte au avut aceasi problema, noroc de al 3-lea pilot care a fost pe faza si i-a salvat pe mamelucii din cockpit. Se pare ca al 3-lea pilot era doar pasager, nu mai era loc si l-au tras pe locul liber din cockpit, norocul lor, omul a stiut cum sa corecteze problema ca aia cautau aiurea in manual cum sa scoata avionul din picaj. Problema cu flight control a fost raportata, a venit un Gica tehnicianul a facut un checkup si avionul a primit green light, a 2-a zi au murit toti, same problem. Mai mult ca sigur nici pilotii de a 2-a zi nu au stiut cum sa redreseze picajul si au murit cu manualul in brate.
Accidentele astea 2 imi aduc aminte de Airbus 310 de la Tarom, unul cazut la Balotesti si altul redresat in ultimul moment deasupra Parisului, pilotul automat era de vina atunci si faptul ca echipajul nu a reusit in timp util sa treaca pe modul manual.
www.cbsnews.com/news/boeing-737-max-8-lion-air-plane-crash-mcas-system-flight-jt610-pilots/
Exista dovezi concludente ca problema era cunoscuta, marile companii au luat deja masuri si au pus fie protocoale in loc ori au cerut lui Boeing masuri suplimentare, maimutele gen Lion Air si Ethiopian au facut cuts la training, mentenanta si safety, rezultatul se vede.
Nu ca ii scuz pe aia de la Boeing, au mers blat si au murit 400 de oameni, problema era cunoscuta, trebuiau sa corecteze softul si sa ofere extra training si asistenta tuturor clientilor, dar cum sunt pe mana cu FAA, deh, corporate greed at its best!
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« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 20 March 2019, 20:48:33 »
Aia de la American Airlines au 2 monitoare extra la ambii piloti tocmai pt. a detecta situatii de genul (nose dive) pe avioanele 737 Max8 din flota lor, deci pilotii de teste de la AA au fost geana si au cerut din start modificari pt. a contracara problema.
Eu am zburat cu Max9 pe United, foarte OK avionul, totul a fost smooth. Astea de au cazut sunt Max8, Air Canada are numai Max8, idem AA, Southwest are Max 7 si 8, United are numai Max9 si 10 in order.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-19/how-an-extra-man-in-cockpit-saved-a-737-max-that-later-crashed
Mai nou se pare ca in cazul Lion Air problema a aparut cu 1 zi inainte de accident, exact cu 1 zi inainte au avut aceasi problema, noroc de al 3-lea pilot care a fost pe faza si i-a salvat pe mamelucii din cockpit. Se pare ca al 3-lea pilot era doar pasager, nu mai era loc si l-au tras pe locul liber din cockpit, norocul lor, omul a stiut cum sa corecteze problema ca aia cautau aiurea in manual cum sa scoata avionul din picaj. Problema cu flight control a fost raportata, a venit un Gica tehnicianul a facut un checkup si avionul a primit green light, a 2-a zi au murit toti, same problem. Mai mult ca sigur nici pilotii de a 2-a zi nu au stiut cum sa redreseze picajul si au murit cu manualul in brate.
Accidentele astea 2 imi aduc aminte de Airbus 310 de la Tarom, unul cazut la Balotesti si altul redresat in ultimul moment deasupra Parisului, pilotul automat era de vina atunci si faptul ca echipajul nu a reusit in timp util sa treaca pe modul manual.
www.cbsnews.com/news/boeing-737-max-8-lion-air-plane-crash-mcas-system-flight-jt610-pilots/
Exista dovezi concludente ca problema era cunoscuta, marile companii au luat deja masuri si au pus fie protocoale in loc ori au cerut lui Boeing masuri suplimentare, maimutele gen Lion Air si Ethiopian au facut cuts la training, mentenanta si safety, rezultatul se vede.
Nu ca ii scuz pe aia de la Boeing, au mers blat si au murit 400 de oameni, problema era cunoscuta, trebuiau sa corecteze softul si sa ofere extra training si asistenta tuturor clientilor, dar cum sunt pe mana cu FAA, deh, corporate greed at its best!


deci tu dai vina pe piloti ca nu au reusit sa corecteze o situatie care s-a ivit din cauza unui design DEFECT !!!
Eu cred ca ai nevoie sa iti re-evaluezi opinia ... peste 400 de oameni au MURIT din cauza unui DESIGN CRIMINAL facut de compania Boeing !


Mai citesc pe yahoo.ca idioti care ii compara pe pilotii din zborul Ethiopian si cel de la Lion Air cu birjarii de trasuri ...


Ce cretini !
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Re: Boeing 737 Max-8
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 20 March 2019, 21:12:15 »
"New York (CNN)US Justice Department prosecutors have issued multiple subpoenas as part of an investigation into Boeing's Federal Aviation Administration certification and marketing of 737 Max planes, sources briefed on the matter told CNN.

The criminal investigation, which is in its early stages, began after the October 2018 crash of a 737 Max aircraft operated by Lion Air in Indonesia, the sources said. Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao on Tuesday asked the agency's inspector general to investigate the Max certification.
Criminal investigators have sought information from Boeing on safety and certification procedures, including training manuals for pilots, along with how the company marketed the new aircraft, the sources said.
It's not yet clear what possible criminal laws could be at issue in the probe. Among the things the investigators are looking into is the process by which Boeing itself certified the plane as safe, and the data it presented the FAA about that self-certification, the sources said.
The FBI Seattle office and Justice Department's criminal division in Washington are leading the investigation.
A Boeing (BA) spokesperson referred to a statement the company released earlier in the week, which indicated it "does not respond to or comment on questions concerning legal matters, whether internal, litigation, or governmental inquiries."
The safety of the 737 Max has been called into question after it was involved in two fatal crashes in less than five months. Both the crash last October involving the Lion Air jet and the crash last week involving an Ethiopian Airlines jet resulted in the deaths of everyone aboard.
The planes were grounded for an indefinite period worldwide after the Ethiopian Airlines crash. Boeing is still building the planes, but it said last week that it would temporarily stop delivering them to airlines while it determines what caused the two crashes.
The FAA and others have said data shows similarities between the Lion Air and Ethiopian crashes."
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Re: Boeing 737 Max-8
« Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 12:50:04 »
Borele. daca o dai in harneli cu "idioti" si "cretini" te trimit la origini de nu te vezi mah boschetarule, faptul ca nu te descurci cu softul e problema ta, insa pilotul de la Ethiopian nici nu a vazut un Max8 in viata lui.
www.cbc.ca/news/world/ethiopian-airlines-captain-untrained-simulator-1.5065501

Deci da, cand Southwest are 35 Max8/7 fiind poate compania cu cele mai multe zboruri pe tipul asta de avion si nu a avut nici un incident, Air Canada are 24 in operare fara probleme, idem American Airlines. Asta imi spune clar ca pilotii de la Lion Air si Ethiopian sunt maimute si habar nu aveau de Max8, pt. ei 737-800 si 737-Max8 erau egale, acum sunt morti din incompetenta lor. Aia de la Lion nu au nici o scuza, avionul cazut a avut exact aceasi problema cu 1 zi inainte, este criminal sa nu il scoti din uz pana vezi ce naiba are. Se pare ca avionul de la Lion Air a avut 11 rapoarte de probleme la flight controls inainte de accident, poate vrei sa vina Boeing sa le faca mentenanta la Lion Air ca ei sunt incapabili.
Ramane de vazut ce problema are softul, si in ce conditii se poate intra in acel noise dive, insa faptul ca pilotii nu sunt capabili sa treaca pe manual nu are nici o scuza. Nu dai vina pe Ferrari ca nu esti capabil sa conduci la 200 si te-ai speriat de limitatorul de viteza... Nu ii scuz pe aia de la Boeing, ceva pute acolo, imposibil sa nu fi stiut de problema aia, nu aveau de ce sa comande diferit aia de la American Airline Max-urile lor, au mers pe mana cu FAA si au zis ca o regleaza din mers cu costuri minime, au uitat insa ca au vandut si la maimute.

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