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"Silicon Valley Ruined Work Culture"
« on: Friday 28 February 2020, 14:16:16 »
Ce fel de "perks" aveti la munca? Noi avem bere la tap, cafea rece la tap, vin si bere in fiecare vineri la ora 4 PM. Mega cantitate de snacks, mancare la pranz mai mereu. Compania este pe 8 etaje si imposibil sa nu gasesti ceva bun de mancare daca la orice ora.
Am gasit pe linkedin ( of all places) un articol misto, unde se critica practica asta, ca fiind creata ca sa elimine bariera dintre munca si viata personala, dandu-se, gresit, senzatia ca e cool si fun sa fii la munca,




"Fewer people have been more vocal opponents of this 24/7 work culture than Dan Lyons, a former journalist who left the newsroom to work at startups in the mid-2000s. The experience was so jarring that he soon quit his tech job—and then parlayed it into a job writing for the television series Silicon Valley, which appears to be an absurdist parody to anyone outside of the tech world, and like a too-real portrait to many people inside of it. Lyons likes to poke fun at the absurdities of tech work culture, and his 2018 book Lab Ratschronicles all of the bizarre corporate workshops and cultural institutions that have come to define work in Silicon Valley: mandatory “Lego play,” an obsession with open offices, the reframing of firing as “graduation.”"

Cand am lucrat, cu ceva ani in urma, la Lowe's am auzit si eu de termenul graduare folosit pentru concediere. Such a cruel bullshit.

https://www.wired.com/story/how-silicon-valley-ruined-work-culture/
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« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 February 2020, 16:36:08 »
 Ati vazut ca vin la munca indivizi care in cele 8 ore , nu fac aproape nimic .
 Se preconizeaza ca daca oamenii ar munci toti pe planeta asta , cum se muncea prin anii 60-75 in tari din lumea a treia ( vezi si Romania ) , forta de munca existenta ar acoperi necesarul zilei in mai putin de 2,5 ore. Se pune intrebarea :
 Cum ar menaja guvernele lumii populatiile tarilor lor , dara oamenii ar avea pre mult timp liber , adica daca s-ar munci "intins" iar cand ai terminat munca sa pleci acasa ?
 Tot ce vi se ofera la munca , face parte de un plan de incetinire a sporului de lucru .
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 February 2020, 17:02:51 »
n-auzi ca aia muncesc pe opt etaje ? Beat that !


 Tot ce vi se ofera la munca , face parte de un plan de incetinire a sporului de lucru si performantelor sexuale. Se trateaza cu cialis supt limba .
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 February 2020, 17:33:16 »
n-auzi ca aia muncesc pe opt etaje ? Beat that !


LOL sa stii. Numai sa fugi de la un meeting la altu pe cele 8 etaje e munca!
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 February 2020, 18:21:03 »
stie managementul ce stie. Cu mancare si bere la fiecare etaj si fara miscare, aveati toate fundul plat. Si ca sa schimbe toate scaunele ergonomice pentru custom made, costa bani.
Cel mai bine e sa organizeze mitingurile cat mai dese la etaje alese random.
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 February 2020, 19:47:07 »
Pina acuma m a platit la warehaus, se pune la perksuri?
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 February 2020, 20:28:09 »
Noi la stat n-avem nimica de mancare sau de baut, da’ printr-un accident fericit etajul nostru era atat de invechit incat au trebuit sa il renoveze si-avem o bucatarie noua, birouri noi, totul nou. Foarte mare noroc.

Despre binefacerile Sillicon Valley mai ascult si eu cate o bucata pe audm, ca asta de exemplu:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/newrepublic.com/amp/article/156202/silicon-valley-economy-here-its-nightmare
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 February 2020, 20:29:43 »
a, este un perk. Probabilitatea sa intre vreun intrus armat etc de ala care trage in lume ii foarte, foarte mica, daca asta conteaza la perks
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 February 2020, 21:23:44 »
Banuiesc ca pensia zilele de boala si vacantele nu se pun la perks la voi, e ceva normal.
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 February 2020, 02:44:12 »
La noi avem bus shuttle de la building pana la linia de metrou Est West ( Bloor line ) il poti folosi gratuit... eu nu il folosesc ca merg cu masina nu cu TTCul.


Avem de asemenea parcarea subterana inclusa ( doar ca o pune pe beneficii ) deci este taxabila anual, deci platesti taxe la banii de parcare inclusa ( apare pe documentul T4 )


Avem Gym gratuit la subsolul cladirii, nu prea imi place sa merg acolo ca nu sunt geamuri, e la subteran si totul e luminat artificial, si aerisirea e cam asa si asa nu prea imi place mirosul...


Am telefonul si laptopul de la serviciu ( nu stiu daca sa il pun la beneficii ori ... pentru ca mi le-au dat mandatoriu )  si il folosesc de asemenea personal, am renuntat la telefonul propriu, imi era dificil sa car doua celulare la mine tot timpul.

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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 February 2020, 11:53:29 »
Rats with desks.
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 29 February 2020, 12:02:17 »
Probabilitatea sa intre vreun intrus armat etc de ala care trage in lume ii foarte, foarte mica, daca asta conteaza la perks

in Canada atacurile armate la job sunt mai rare decat atacurile armate in locuinte private (unele soldate cu crime), ai dreptate  8)

un scurt rezumat din presa, numai de la inceputul anului 2020:

https://montrealgazette.com/news/killer-found-guilty-of-13-home-invasions-one-of-which-involved-a-murder

https://www.ottawamatters.com/police-beat/gatineau-police-identifying-two-accused-in-laramee-street-home-invasion-2038768
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Re: "Silicon Valley Ruined Work Culture"
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 29 February 2020, 12:27:47 »
noi avem breakfast daily (usurel: toast cu dulceturi, cretoane si philadelphia), de 2 ori pe sapt se adauga fructe cu iaurt si o data pe luna apar si croissante. Permanent la discretie avem cateva feluri de cafea macinata si o larga selectie de ceaiuri (unele chiar bio). Vinerea la pranz apare bere dar nu e atmosfera, multi preferam ziua scurta si nu prea merge sa bei si apoi sa te sui la volan sa pleci

mai avem pass-uri la un gym din apropiere (rulam un anumit numar de permise) si telework fara numar (cu aprobarea prealabila a sefului, noh)
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 29 February 2020, 13:14:13 »
bere la serviciu, doamne apara si pazeste, nici daca nu faci nimic nu pupi asa ceva, daca te imbeti si te lovesti la glezna?
nici un employer nu isi ia riscul sa fie dat in judecata de vre-un amploaiat dement.
la hontariu ai sansa sa fii imediat dat in judecata pt nimic, l-ai lovit pe unul cu masina usurel de nici vopseaua nu s a ciobit, pac la trebunal ca are coloana fisurata si ii trebe juma de milion sa se recover.
si asta e unul din motive de asigurarile auto sint astronomice.
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 February 2020, 14:12:20 »
Banuiesc ca pensia zilele de boala si vacantele nu se pun la perks la voi, e ceva normal.


Pai nu prea ma gandesc la ele, zilele de boala le iau foarte rar cand dau in epuizare, vacanta - o sa am 4 saptamani pe an de anul asta (la 7 ani de vechime) si pensia.. tu crezi ca eu sper sa apuc pensia in ritmul asta? 1) o sa fie noroc daca ma tine corpul asta si 2) dac-o mai fi pensia asta pe-atunci o sa fie minune..




 
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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 29 February 2020, 14:26:54 »
@Rufuse normal ca ala nu-i perk, l-am zis asa, ca altele nu imi veneau in minte

My two cents - real perks are getting really rare. Mancarea nu e perk, pentru ca ce se ofera at large nu e de calitatea pe care ti-o cumperi acasa, e potol dat la gramada sa incurajeze the sense of belonging
Nepotu-meu in sua are a real perk, some real recognition points ststem, are atatea puncte incat vine de vreo 6 ori pe an la Mtl pe gratis. Dar nici ala nu-i real perk, pentru ca in realitate lucreaza foarte mult pentru tot acel package pe care il are.

Perk e sa ai timp pentru tine, oricum ai lucra.
Alt perk e sa poti calatori in locuri faine pe gratis.
Alt perk real foarte important e sa cunosti prin job lume interesanta/importanta pe care altfel nu ai putea sa o vezi. Acuma.. definitia la omul interesant sau important e foarte relativa :)
Perk e sa ai genul de job care te incurajeaza zilnic sa ai grija de sanatatea ta, si nu ma refer neaparat la sedinte heirupiste de gym
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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 29 February 2020, 16:57:13 »


Perk e sa ai timp pentru tine, oricum ai lucra.
Alt perk e sa poti calatori in locuri faine pe gratis.
Alt perk real foarte important e sa cunosti prin job lume interesanta/importanta pe care altfel nu ai putea sa o vezi. Acuma.. definitia la omul interesant sau important e foarte relativa :)
Perk e sa ai genul de job care te incurajeaza zilnic sa ai grija de sanatatea ta, si nu ma refer neaparat la sedinte heirupiste de gym


hmmm, nu m-am gandit niciodata ce plin de perks sunt.
Merci Gabi ca mi-ai deschis ochii.


(in Darwin, Australia, am fost fortat sa fac Yoga la marginea apei cu toti workerii de dimineata la 6 am si i-am injurat in gand. N-ar fi trebuit, ca dupa aia toti enjinerii ereau relaxati numa eu plin de draci ca uitasera sa ma connecteze la SCADA)
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 29 February 2020, 21:19:22 »
opt etaje, misto. ce zici daca trec si io intr-o vineri pe acolo sa beau o bere si sa mananc o chiftea se prinde cineva ca nu-s de-al casei?
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« Reply #18 on: Saturday 29 February 2020, 22:28:58 »
opt etaje, misto. ce zici daca trec si io intr-o vineri pe acolo sa beau o bere si sa mananc o chiftea se prinde cineva ca nu-s de-al casei?


Daca canti ceva in romaneste nu se prinde nimeni ca nu esti de acolo.

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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 01 March 2020, 09:12:13 »
LOL sa stii. Numai sa fugi de la un meeting la altu pe cele 8 etaje e munca!
De ce , nu merge liftul , va taie curentul intre ora D si ora D , va obliga sa mergeti pe scari ?
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