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Medic to Medic Help.
« on: Monday 12 October 2009, 01:31:02 »
Buna ziua Tuturor
Stimati colegi ce ati imigrat in provincia Quebec,
Va rog din numele tuturor medicilor ce au imigrat de curind, s-a va impartasiti cu TOATE INFORMATIILE ce le socotiti utile noilor veniti, indifirent daca ati reusit sa va realizati ca medici in Quebec sau daca ati ales o alta cale si v-ati reprofilat spre un alt profil conex .
Multumesc si succese tuturor!!!


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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 October 2009, 09:06:16 »
Ce ai vrea sa stii?

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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 October 2009, 09:12:00 »
Dom' doctor, "s-a"??

Si nu spune ca a scapat din greseala, ca nu au nici o legatura pe tastatura.


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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 October 2009, 15:41:12 »
@vacaru
daca erai domn, ii trimiteai un private si-i atrageai atentia.
asa, da, bravo esti un fin cunoscator al limbii romane- dar nu esti domn.
lasand la o parte ca esti offtopic (ca si mine dealtfel, fapt pentru care imi cer scuze)
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 October 2009, 07:32:00 »
@vacaru
daca erai domn, ii trimiteai un private si-i atrageai atentia.
asa, da, bravo esti un fin cunoscator al limbii romane- dar nu esti domn.
lasand la o parte ca esti offtopic (ca si mine dealtfel, fapt pentru care imi cer scuze)

Domn? Pe private?

In aceeasi linie, tu erai domn, daca trimiteai pe private...de ce ai postat?

Pai asta e forum, Blueice.


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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 October 2009, 10:37:19 »
Clar, ce ar fi rominul fara vacari ce nu se pot abtine de comentarii de doi bani

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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 October 2009, 17:29:27 »
Doc, a iti spune ca esti agramat nu e un comentariu de doi bani. Daca chiar esti doctor, e jalnic sa nu fii in stare sa legi doua vorbe in romana.
Dupa atata scoala, sa faci asa greseli e inadmisibil.

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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 October 2009, 19:32:28 »
Exceptind faptul vacarule, ca ai trebui sa pasti vacile, vreau sa-ti spun ca nu ma deranjeaza deloc comentariile unui romin de cacat ca tine.  :laugh:


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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 October 2009, 15:05:26 »
sper ca sa nu jignesc pe nimeni dar dupa reactie si daca ar fi sa ne luam dupa increderea in medicii din ro ...

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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 15 October 2009, 17:08:02 »
romanii tot romani...
omul a cerut niste informatii.
cine poate sa i le dea, bine cine nu, sa-si faca topic cu reguli de ortografie si gramatica limbii romane.
nici eu nu-s de acord cu agramarile, cum nu sunt de acord nici cu umilirea in public.
in plus, cred ca numai cei fara de greseala ar trebui sa dea cu piatra (gura).

@parasuco -conform regulilor limbii romane, inceputurile de propozitii se fac cu majuscule - sper ca nu te jignesc daca iti recomand sa mai pui si tu mana pe manualul de limba romana de clasa a doua. eu sunt agramat si semi-doct si imi permit sa le incalc, dar tu....

in alta ordine de idei, pe forumul asta chiar nu exista nici un buton prin care sa incetez urmarirea acestui topic? nu de alta, dar a devenit circ ieftin (ca majoritatea lucrurilor produse de romani dealtfel)
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 October 2009, 17:45:16 »
Parerea mea, din cite am vazut pe aici, ar fi sa se pregateasca pentru examenul din US si s-o taie acolo.
Alta solutie nu vad.
Sint si exceptii, dar exceptiile sint exceptii deci rare.

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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #12 on: Friday 16 October 2009, 23:15:15 »
Mi-as dori sa fiu si eu ignorant ca tine, dar din pacate nu am norocul.

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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 December 2009, 12:32:42 »
Eu o sa iti povestesc experienta mea. Am venit in Canada in octombrie 2003. Am reusit sa imi dau primul examen (EE) in sept 2005 si ultimul (QE2) in toamna 2006, dar rezultatul a venit prea tarziu si nu am reusit sa aplic pentru rezi decat in 2007. In ianuarie 2008 am inceput un master la U de Montreal in stiinte neurologice si in acelasi timp lucram in cercetare. Intre timp am aflat de posibilitatea de a face 2 ani de externat la o universitate francofona si am aplicat in acelasi timp si pentru externat la U de Montreal si U Sherbrooke. In rezidentiat nu am fost acceptata, desi am avut mai multe interviuri, dar am fost acceptata sa imi fac externatul la U de Montreal. In prezent sunt studenta (extern 2) si aplic pentru rezidentiat 2010 ca absolventa a acestei universitati, deci sper cu mai multe sanse de reusita. In timpul stagiilor am intlnit mai multi medici romani care au fost acceptati in rezidentiat, dar in general aveau niste ani de practica intr-o alta tara europeana (Franta, Belgia...). Privind in urma consider ca aceasta cale pe care o urmez desi este mai lunga, iti ofera o adaptare mult mai usoara. Ca student la medicina ai destul de multe responsabilitati. Ai pacientii tai pe care ii urmaresti, doar ca trebuie sa dai mereu raportul patronului in ceea ce priveste intentiile tale (teste, tratamente...) si bineiteles ai nevoie de semnatura lui pentru a fii executate.
Nu stiu in ce stadiu esti tu. Daca ai nevoie de informatii in ceea ce priveste cele 3 examene care trebuiesc date le gasesti la www.mcc.ca. Sa treci examenele nu este o problema daca inveti, problema ramane sa fii acceptat in sistem. O data intrata inteleg perfect de ce. Nu vreau sa intru in detalii...
Daca ai nevoie de informatii specifice, scrie-mi. Nu am intrat in prea multe amanunte. Ideea este ca daca vrei sa reusesti, gasesti o cale si reusesti, dar  trebuie multa munca si rabdare. Nu trebuie sa te iei dupa toate sfaturile celor care nu sunt in sistem. Sunt multi care au reusit, dar sunt mult prea ocupati pentru a scrie. Programul este foarte foarte incarcat, chiar si ca student. Daca mai ai si o familie si copii...

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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 31 December 2009, 08:13:40 »
succes tuturor, eu intrasem sa intreb cine stie cum se calculeaza superba cota R.
era alt fel pina in 2009 acum s-a imbunatatit metoda de calcul, dar mi imi este
greu sa le pricep chiar pe toate:
La formule de calcul de la CRC est la suivante :
CRC = (Z + IFG + C) x D
Z représente la cote Z
IFG, l'indicateur de la force du groupe
C et D, des constantes de valeur 5

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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 17 February 2010, 14:08:59 »

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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #17 on: Friday 01 October 2010, 01:29:04 »
si eu incerc sa caut o cale pentru sotia mea de a continua studiile medicale si a practica apoi medicina in Canada. Pana acum m-am lovit de o serie de situatii neplacute, raspunsuri ambigue si informatii nefolositoare. pana la urma am lasat balta forumurile, de unde nu am primit nicio informatie utila si concreta si am apelat direct la sursa: McGill University mi-a furnizat cateva informatii neconcludente, dar mi-au spus ca cel mai bine este sa apelez la CMQ (colegiul medicilor) pentru detalii. dupa cateva mail-uri de prezentare am reusit sa-i fac sa inteleaga ce vrem noi de fapt si chiar au venit cu solutii. va trimit raspunsul lor pentru a le putea analiza si poate ma ajutati chiar cu mai multe sugestii sau detalii:
Following your request, here are the possibilities offered to International medical graduates (IMG) who wish to practice medicine in Québec.

If you hold a medical degree (M.D. diploma) from a medical school or a university outside of Canada and the United States and wish to obtain a permit to practice medicine in Québec, you could ask for:
a) a restrictive permit
b) a recognition of the equivalence in order to obtain a permit to practice medicine (regular permit)
c) an admittance to undergraduate medical studies in one of the faculties of medicine in Québec

N.B.        Candidate who wishes to do a postgraduate training in Québec as a resident, must beforehand have obtained the recognition of equivalence of his medical degree (M.D.).
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Please note that...
The Collège des médecins du Québec (CMQ) organizes regularly Information sessions to help you understand the process in order to obtain a permit to practice in Québec. The CMQ Website is: www.cmq.org /To Obtain a Permit to Practice /International medical graduates.
The ministère de l'Immigration et des Communautés culturellles (MICC) provides assistance to persons trained abroad who wish to integrate as professionals, by familiarizing them notably with the conditions for practicing their profession in Québec.
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a)  Restrictive Permit
This pathway is open to a physician who is ready to practice medicine in the Québec context.  In order to obtain a restrictive permit, one of the conditions is that the candidate must have worked in the same discipline of the requested permit, for a minimum of 12 months during the 2 years preceding the application; the candidate must also succeed an evaluation period in the same discipline of the permit requested.


This permit is restrictive in three aspects of practice:
- The place: your right to practice is limited to a specific establishment;
- The acts: the professional acts you are authorized to perform are specifically defined;
- The duration: the permit must be renewed every year.

Québec government has established an agency: Recrutement Santé Québec (RSQ) which is the portal of entry for all candidates (International medical graduates) who wish to obtain a restrictive permit to practice medicine in Québec.  RSQ will help you find an establishment in a region that has needs in your discipline and would like to sponsor you. The RSQ Website will provide you with the terms and conditions for financial assistance with a view to obtaining sponsorship and a restrictive permit to practice.

For more information, please contact RSQ by e-mail at the following address: rsq.md@msss.gouv.qc.ca.

You will find pertinent information regarding the Restrictive Permit at these links:  
Process
Required docs

Please note that in order to apply for a restrictive permit, you must first successfully passed one (1) of the following exams :
The  Medical Council of Canada Evaluation Examination  (MCCEE) -   MCCEE reference material
The United States Medical Licensing Examination / Step 2 CK (USMLE / Step 2)  or
Being the holder or the certificate of the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates  (ECFMG)


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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #18 on: Friday 01 October 2010, 01:29:38 »
si continuarea:


b)  Recognition of equivalence in order to obtain a regular permit to practice
International medical graduate who holds a medical degree (M.D. diploma) from a medical school or a university outside of Canada and the United States, will have to overcome the following steps in order to obtain a permit to practice medicine in Québec.
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Step 1: Obtain the recognition of the equivalence of your medical degree (M.D. Diploma)
Step 2: Obtain a residency position in one of the four faculties of medicine in Québec and complete a
             postgraduate training
Step 3: Succeed to Final exam in family medicine or in specialty
Step 4: Ask for a permit to practice and register on the Roll of the CMQ
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Step 1 - Recognition of equivalence of the medical degree
In order to obtain the equivalence of your medical degree (M.D.diploma), you must overcome the steps of the recognition of the equivalence of the medical degree (M.D. Diploma), including the credentials verification of certain of the documents, and the success to the required exams. You will have to:
Hold a medical degree (M.D. Diploma) awarded by a medical school listed in the International Medical Education (FAIMER/IMED) Directory;
Apply to the CMQ for recognition of equivalence of the medical degree (request form) and submit the required documents;
Submit also the required documents to the Physician Credentials Registry of Canada (PCRC).  Register directly to PCRC and select the CMQ as one of the organisms to whom you want to show your documents, in order that we can have access to your file;
Successfully pass the  Medical Council of Canada Evaluation Examination  (MCCEE);
Successfully pass the Medical Council of Canada Qualifying Examination, Part I (MCCQE I);
Successfully pass the National Assessment Collaboration Objective Structured Clinical Examination (NAC - OSCE) - registration with the CMQ or the Medical Council of Canada Qualifying Examination, Part II (MCCQE II);
Successfully pass the knowledge of the French language Examination (examen de français) of the Office québécois de la langue française (OQLF)or  be exempted;
Confirmation of the PCRC verification.

Step 2 - Postgraduate training (residency position)
Once you have obtained the recognition of the equivalence of your medical degree (step 1), you must apply for admission to one of Québec's four faculties of medicine, and obtain a residency position in order to complete a postgraduate training in family medicine or in specialty. A list of recognized specialites in Québec is available on the CMQ Website: Regulation - Schedule I.

Your name and contact information will be transmitted to the Québec faculties of medicine Conférence des vice-doyens aux études médicales postdoctorales (CVDFM). The CVDFM will contact you to explain the steps to follow in order to deposit an admission application in one of the Québec postgraduate training program.

If you can demonstrate that you already have completed postgraduate training in family medicine or in a specialty, equivalent in duration and content to half or more of that required in Québec and wish to ask for the recognition of the equivalence of your training, you may send a request to CMQ. In order that CMQ may rule on your application of recognition of the equivalence of your postgraduate training...

a.        First, you will have to get a residency position in the discipline in which you already have completed a postgraduate training and serve a minimum of 12 months of postgraduate training (classification training period). Take note that the faculties of medicine are under no obligation to offer the classification training period.

b.        Only at the end of this classification training period, that the CMQ may take a decision regarding your request of recognition of the equivalence of your postgraduate training completed outside Canada and the United-States.  At this purpose, a written request must be sent to CMQ with the required documents. Some of these documents must be submitted to the Physician Credentials Registry of Canada (www.pcrc.org) for credentials verification.

c.        Decision will be based upon your file and the in-training evaluation reports forwarded to the CMQ by the involved faculty of medicine. CMQ can not recognize the equivalence of a training period if the duration of the training is less then that required from Québec residents.

If, after the classification training period, CMQ allows a partial recognition of the equivalence of your postgraduate training, you will have to complete this training until confirmation of completion by the faculty of medicine and until CMQ may recognize that you have the professional abilities required to practice medicine in solo and that you have achieved the goals of the training program. You could then apply to the Final exam in family medicine or in your specialty.

However, if at the end of the classification training period, CMQ recognizes the equivalence of your postgraduate training, you could register to the Final exam in family medicine or in your specialty without any other prerequisite training.

If you can not demonstrate that you have completed postgraduate training, equivalent in duration and content to half or more of that required in Québec, you could not apply for recognition of the equivalence of this training.  If you are recruited by a Québec faculty of medicine, you will have to complete a full postgraduate training in family medicine or in a specialty.


Take note that the faculties of medicine in Québec are responsible for assigning residents’ positions to complete any postgraduate training in family medicine or in a specialty, including the 12-month classification period.  As the number of places is limited, obtaining a position can not be guaranteed in any manner.

Given that no International medical graduate (IMG) can be sure of obtaining a resident’s position to complete a classification period or any other postgraduate training, it will be up to you to decide when to submit an application for recognition of equivalence of your postgraduate training.  You may choose to apply as soon as you obtain recognition of equivalence of your medical degree (M.D.). You may also decide not to submit an application for recognition of equivalence of your postgraduate training before having obtained a resident’s position in the specialty for which you have already been trained, aimed by the classification training period.

Step 3 - Final examination in family medicine or in specialty
When you will have completed all the required postgraduate training in Québec, you will have to succeed the Final examination determined by CMQ in your discipline (family medicine or specialty) and participate to an ALDO-Québec educational activity. You may also notice specific requirements regarding prerequisites for certain specialty examinations.

Step 4 - Request for a permit to practice and registration on the Roll of the CMQ

CMQ will issue a permit to practice medicine and an attestation in family medicine or a specialist’s certificate when you will have successfully completed step 1, 2 and 3 and filled in the application for a permit to practice medicine and paid the prescribed fees.

c)  Applying for admittance to medical school
An International Medical Graduate who holds a medical degree from outside of Canada and the United States may also apply to the Québec's faculties of medicine for admittance to medical studies. In that case, you may contact directly the faculties of medicine to inquire about the applicable conditions.

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Re: Medic to Medic Help.
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 17 October 2010, 23:04:03 »
Man, tu faci ce vrei dar sfatul meu este sa-ncerce sa practice in Europa. E mult mai rapid si mai putin frustrant.