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« on: Tuesday 18 March 2008, 17:01:34 »
topic cu propozitii din filme care ne-a zbarlit parul pe spate
incep eu:

" Two of 'em. Both had my father in 'em . It's peculiar. I'm older now then he ever was by twenty years. So in a sense he's the younger man. Anyway, first one I don't remember to well but it was about meeting him in town somewhere, he's gonna give me some money. I think I lost it. The second one, it was like we was both back in older times and I was on horseback goin' through the mountains of a night. Goin' through this pass in the mountains. It was cold and there was snow on the ground and he rode past me and kept on goin'. Never said nothin' goin' by. He just rode on past... and he had his blanket wrapped around him and his head down and when he rode past I seen he was carryin' fire in a horn the way people used to do and I could see the horn from the light inside of it. 'Bout the color of the moon. And in the dream I knew that he was goin' on ahead and he was fixin' to make a fire somewhere out there in all that dark and all that cold, and I knew that whenever I got there he would be there. And then I woke up."


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« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 March 2008, 09:52:55 »
de ce ti s-a zbarlit parul ?


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« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 March 2008, 10:01:30 »
asta mi se pare scena cea mai teribila din film (No country for old men):

- Heads or tails ? Call it.

(cand stii ca e vorba de viata ta)



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« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 March 2008, 10:04:26 »
pentru felul cetzos in care realizeaza ca s-a intersectat cu Raul.

yep, the evil is random

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 March 2008, 10:41:46 »
pentru felul cetzos in care realizeaza ca s-a intersectat cu Raul.


Nu este nici un Raul in film  :P


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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 March 2008, 08:41:17 »
Io cred ca fimul asta vrea sa dovedeasca la toti privitorii care nu inteleg nika din filmul asta, ca sint batrini si de aia nu inteleg nika ;) Nici nu e de mirare, dintotdeauna a existat asta : "pe vremea mea.." Lumea asta clar se schimba cu fiecare generatie.

Cei putini care inteleg pot pune faptul asta ( ca au inteles), pe seama a ce vor ei, fie inteligenta emotionala(diferita de a celorlalti) fie revelatie religioasa fie o mai rara comunicatie intergenerationala.

In clipul asta, facut sa se zbirleasca parul pe tine (probabil cum i s-a zbirlit amaritului ala de vinzator la tejghea) tre sa tremuri la ideea ca in orice zi un descreierat ca ala o sa te intrebe de vorba si , daca nu ai inteles scena asta din filmul asta, esti facut, nu o sa ai nici o sansa atunci ( cind un descreierat te va intreba de vorba..)

As putea spune ca e genial...Dar si trist/posac si deprimant.

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 March 2008, 09:19:06 »
iote luat alandala ce zic altii :

This is how the West ends -- not with a bang, but with a compressed air gun.The West may be no country for old men, but it isn’t exactly hospitable to younger men (or women), either.I saw Old Country for Old Men recently and enjoyed it immensely.  But i couldn’t figure out the ending as my movie analysis skills are lacking.  After some quick googling i found this site which gave a great explanation to the ending of the movie.
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“For of course, he wasn’t really talking about an ending per se. Every film receives an ending as soon as the director says, “Cut!” in the editing room for the final time and the picture is locked.  Some films just seem interminable. His error was one of semantics (let’s leave aside philosophy for the moment). In his emphatic, Hollywood-shaped opinion, all movies should have closure. All questions answered, all loose ends tied up in a neat little bow. He wouldn’t go so far as to insist all movies should have a happy ending, but then again, narrative closure does offer a measure of comfort and certainty. A romance is either eternal or done for good. Everyone learns something. The war is over. The bad guy is punished. We can enter our houses justified. The end. Certainty is nice, no?” Asta pune un pic in perspectiva parerea celor care zic ca au inteles sfirsitul (si sa zicem si filmul in general).Nu ma deranjeaza de loc daca filmul place sau nu, daca are sfirsit sau nu, dar nu imi place sa mi se spuna cit de frumos e imbracat imparatul daca eu il vad gol. Exista frumusete in corpul gol.. ..Sa nu fiu inteles gresit. Filmul fratilor Coen este un film artistic. Si fara indoiala o viziune interesanta."
Oricum situl asta de unde am citat mai sus da o oarecare explicatie empatica catre cei care , cu umilinta, nu au
inteles. Sau care mai bine zis au alta parere.

http://www.thesimon.com/magazine/articles/guy_movies/01491_no_country_old_men_western_terminator.html

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 March 2008, 09:32:13 »
De fapt , ca si in filmul asta, si eu ma gindesc cu nostalgie la vremurile cind filmele, europene sau americane, erau facute pentru oameni si nu neaparat pentru critica. Mi se pare ca e o distanta din ce in ce mai mare intre votul popular (pulimea) si votul officionados. Am fost interesat de diverse filme zis culte, in timp..

Nu sint sigur foarte tare daca filme ca KillBill, PulpFiction, SinCity etc ca sa dau exemplu doar unui gen, ajuta la cauza. Creatia zis de masa raspunde din ce in ce mai mult unor retete de marketing si este dirijata de boxoffice in timp ce creatia zisa "de nisha" se refugiaza de multe ori in "proof concept" , in distilarea unor emotii umane extreme...

Stiu ca nu is clar, dar mi-ar place ca sa nu se duca deampulea in doua directii diferite , popularul si criticul, sa revina impreuna..

In Ratatouille, un film frumos dupa mine, are criticul ala dezgustator o revelatie si din acru si dezagreabil devine bon-vivant si empatic. pe ,masura ce arta bucatariei revine catre valori de baza ale gustulu si mirosului ..

Stiu ca e doar un basm, dar imi place sa cred ca si in productia de filme sa poata fi posibil...


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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 March 2008, 10:35:43 »
parasuco ai mai zis ca n-ai inteles filmul/nu te-a entuziasmat pe alte topice, ma gandeam ca pe asta il pastram la cuvinte memorabile, chestii care ne-au dat pe spate in filme


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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 26 March 2008, 12:56:50 »
genial topicul...promit sa ma uit la filme cu carnetzel si pix!

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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 26 March 2008, 20:11:14 »
parasuco ai mai zis ca n-ai inteles filmul/nu te-a entuziasmat


si te mai intreaba unii : de ce zici ca americanii sunt mai "pocaiti" decat romanii ?
LOL

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 27 March 2008, 15:19:14 »
I'm back  :056:


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« Reply #12 on: Friday 28 March 2008, 20:26:05 »
..sau ca poti fi ca Dumnezeu.